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Questions for Freeper Preppers:

Which brand of Generator do you prefer? (We have heard that CAT and ONAN are the bes).

Which fuel would you prefer? (We have Natural gas hook up......father in law wants us to have dual fuel).

What type of setup would you use? (battery bank? dual fuel? tie in to grid?)

Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

As always,
FReegards!

DCB

1 posted on 04/05/2010 7:40:19 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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I'm looking to do the same thing since I am buying a rural house in an area prone to power outages during storms. As a starter budget unit I'm look at this:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200365132_200365132
It is a 17Kw that will run MOST of a whole house. You will have to be careful not to run too much at one time. Some of the things we are doing is replacing the 60 watt spots in our recessed lighting with 3 watt LED spots. My stove top and oven are propane and I'm thinking of going propane with the dryer & hot water heater to keep loads down.

I may replace the unit if I find a deal on a much larger unit in the future. Something in the 30Kw to 50Kw range. I have an RV with a generator and a small portable gasoline generator to run other items as necessary.

Propane is the fuel I prefer. It does not have the storage problems diesel and gasoline do; it simply does not go bad in the tank. NG is not an option for me because it is not available, but even so I would prefer to have my own fuel on hand. Propane allows you to store a months of fuel without worrying about bacteria or water condensation.

In my way of thinking, minimal creature comforts and keeping the deep freezer running are the main items I want to cover and the small unit does that.

78 posted on 04/05/2010 9:38:00 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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Running everything in the house isn’t practical. You don’t do that when you do have power. The size of generator to do that would not be practical in installation or usage.

A 12kw generator will run everything that you need to run at the same time and will not make the noise, take up the space or burn the fuel of a 40-100kw generator that could actually run every thing at once.

Are you on NG or propane, if so, they are the easiest to use. No fuel spoilage or 5 gallon tins.

Talk to an electrician, they can set you up in a fully automated system.


79 posted on 04/05/2010 9:38:44 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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natural gas would be the way to go- natural gas is clean and dont sludge up over time like diesel does.(reliable). plus you will have fuel all the time in a natural gas pipeline.. cat gens are not the best gen. package sets.. the best for your home would be a waukesha engine with a kato generator end.( extremely reliable, but kinda expensive).. i buy and sell generators all the time down here in south louisiana. i have about 13 gen sets diesel and natural gas of many differ. kw’s.. all you need to do is get a amp probe and put on your main @ 220 volt feed and turn everything on in the house and it will give you your maximum amp reading-( that will determine the KW you will need)..just guessing at it probally a 40 to 50 kw with 330 waukesha engine, due to starting amps your appliances will draw at start up.. i have several gen sets


82 posted on 04/05/2010 9:46:24 AM PDT by chicken head
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First off, get one of these beauties .




86 posted on 04/05/2010 10:12:11 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: DCBryan1; Drumbo

Great thread, been wondering about this myself.


89 posted on 04/05/2010 10:15:47 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Freedom is taken, not given.)
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Consider water cooled over air cooled.

Air cooled require frequent oil changes which may be very inconvenient in an emergency.

Right after Hurricane Ike two years ago my neighbor had all the kids entertained by having enough generator power to run his TV and game systems as well as his swimming pool pump.

That may seem silly but considering the damage and clean up activities and all the kids who couldn’t go to school, it was nice to have them out of harm’s way and entertained while the rest of us cut trees and mended fences and roofs.

ESPECIALLY if you have kids....summertime camping at home with no power loses its novelty after the first five days!

And having worked commercial hurricane restoration after Ivan, Dennis, and Katrina I have an idea of what hurricanes can do.


90 posted on 04/05/2010 10:19:31 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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I’ve lived in two homes now where a good backup system was essential: 1) Grand Forks, ND, where overland flooding was an annual possibility, and two, at present, in rural Idaho where remote conditions and an idiot running the country means you always have to be prepared to fend for yourself.

In both places I hired a licensed electrician to add a backup toggle-operated generator panel alongside my regular electric panel.

You also have them install an outside plug-in adapted for a generator. Power goes out, you start your generator, plug it into the outside socket, then flip the toggle on the generator panel in the house to switch from power company electricity to generator power.

The toggle switch assures that you are OFF the main power source and ON the generator, and precludes you from all kinds of dangerous and destructive backsurges, etc.

Depending on the size of generator you have, you can wire in your well & pump, your furnace if you have one, water heater and a fridge or freezer or two, maybe a light circuit or two to make it easier getting around the house during the outage.

If you have a well you are going to have to figure on four thousand or so peak watts (depending on well depth and pump size) just to get your water.

I have a well at 325 feet with a three-horse pump (don’t ask me why so big, the fool before me put the pump in) and I bought a 7,000 peak watt generator, which supplies me enough juice to run all the stuff I mentioned above.

This may bother some people but I went with a Honda engine on my generator and if I had had the money I would have bought a Honda generator period. Nobody-—and I mean NOBODY-—builds a small powerful engine that you can absolutely always count on even nearly as well as Honda.

If you have 4,000 sq. feet and a well, I’d get a nine or 10,000 watt generator, if you can swing it, and I’d get a Honda, no ifs and or buts.....good luck.


96 posted on 04/05/2010 10:33:31 AM PDT by dblup
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her criteria is to be able to run everything in the house if the power goes out.

If 20,000 watts doesn't do it, nothing will.

http://www.amazon.com/Generac-5744-Air-Cooled-Automatic-Generator/dp/B001RCUOUQ
99 posted on 04/05/2010 10:42:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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her criteria is to be able to run everything in the house if the power goes out.

Unrealistic expectations of her IMO.

In a SHTF scenario where transportation lines are cut or highways destroyed, no/little food will be coming in anyway.

I have a generator, but really never expect to use it for the fridge, as we will eat the food in the fridge first, and them move on to the freeze dried foods.

Think of Haiti, Katrina etc. How many food trucks were going in to fill the grocery stores?

You need to sit down and talk about what is realistic and what is needed.
100 posted on 04/05/2010 10:47:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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Are you on municipal water or well? All motors have an inrush starting value that can be quite high.


101 posted on 04/05/2010 10:54:09 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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Hey,

I just purchased a generator from Sportsmans Warehouse.

Master Quality® 2,000W Portable Generator
Product: WX2-177782
Expected availability: March 31, 2010.
Quantity: 1, Unit Price: $269.97, Total Price: $269.97

I hope it is not a piece of junk. Would have been nice to get a Honda but this fits my budget for one of those things to have IF things get out of hand.

MFO


107 posted on 04/05/2010 11:10:46 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: EdReform

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113 posted on 04/05/2010 11:30:20 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: familyop

back-up generator suggestion thread ping.


130 posted on 04/05/2010 9:16:10 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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Dude, your gonna need a 50,000W Diesel Gen, this will make your wife happy.


131 posted on 04/05/2010 9:18:06 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: carolinacrazy

Read this thread.


133 posted on 12/08/2010 10:28:09 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made out of liberals...)
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