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To: kbennkc
Total Government control = Left

Yet, we call the nazi regime in Germany ultra-right wing even though a lot of the core-ideas are very "left wing" by todays arbitrary definitions:
* Government control over banking and industry
* Government control over education
* Government control over media
* Government control over healthcare and social security

Like someone already mentioned: it's all in the perspective. Back in the 1920, the labels were not "left" or "right", it was "Bolschevism" vs "Fascism". "Left" and "Right" are modern-day re-definitions. Time to drop them alltogether.

25 posted on 03/30/2010 12:34:38 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: SwedishConservative
Yet, we call the nazi regime in Germany ultra-right wing

What's this "We" stuff Kemosabe ?

30 posted on 03/30/2010 12:39:06 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: SwedishConservative

When someone can point to another nation with a goverment similar to our 3 branch system and our Constitutional protection of personal liberties and limits on the powers of government, I’ll accept a “global” definition of “Left” and “Right”.

Otherwise there is no foreign example of what in America is called “right wing”.


34 posted on 03/30/2010 12:44:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: SwedishConservative
"Bolschevism" vs "Fascism"

If Bolschevism is "left" and Fascism is "right", we're talking about two sides of a single coin.

And we, the constitutionalists, the classic liberal "conservatives" are no where on any continuum between the two.

We are a different creature altogether.

37 posted on 03/30/2010 12:45:49 PM PDT by marron
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To: SwedishConservative

The idea that the Fascists were “right wing” is a very successful propaganda meme from the Left in the post-WWII era. The far Left of the pre- and early-WWII era had been OK with the Nazis, as the Nazis and the Soviets were allies up until 1941, and any friend of the Soviets was a friend of our far Left.

The reality is there wasn’t a nickel’s difference between them, and people with a clue in that era knew it. See the third quote on my FR profile page, the two-paragraph one by Hayek, regarding this.


66 posted on 03/31/2010 5:25:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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