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U.K. Teen Dies in Blast After Cigarette Sparks Hair Bleach
FoxNews.com ^ | March 25, 2010 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 03/25/2010 4:19:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker

... A British hairdresser died after her cigarette ignited a leaking bottle of hydrogen peroxide bleach which then blew up in her car as she drove along a quiet country lane ... "We want to warn people how volatile hydrogen peroxide is, even if it is kept in the boot of a car. Jennie’s friends have all said they carry it," added her mother Pauline Mitchell.

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To: dennisw
It could be that some hair salons order the concentrated form of H2O2 that is 35%

That is getting fairly close to rocket fuel.
61 posted on 03/25/2010 6:17:10 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
i could see it maybe in ARIZONA... or SAUDI ARABIA, 150+ in the car, but Ungland??? guess that stuff is really industrial strength sh!t.
62 posted on 03/25/2010 6:19:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The powder bleach they use to mix with the peroxide could easily start a fire if it came into contact with transmission fluid.
Lots of people keep an extra bottle of transmission fluid in older cars that they also use for power steering fluid replacement .
bleach+ transmission fluid = instant hot fire
a hot fire above a gas tanks that was running on empty could cause a heck of an explosion due to the gas vapors


63 posted on 03/25/2010 6:20:39 PM PDT by Lera (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Interesting thread.

I just recently converted my hot tub from chlorine/bromine to 35% food grade h2o2. I had a constant rash from the other sanitizers, and the h2o2 has made the rash go away.

The people who market this stuff are adamant that there is nothing explosive about it.

64 posted on 03/25/2010 6:24:18 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, the commercial stuff is 3%.


65 posted on 03/25/2010 6:25:24 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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To: cripplecreek

“What most of us think about hydrogen peroxide comes in a bottle and is something like .01% hydrogen peroxide.”

Drugstore, grocery store H2O2 is 3 percent. Hairdressers normally would use 6 percent. Something like 28 percent is sold for swimming pools. 35 percent food grade is available. Rocket fuel H2O2 is 90 percent.

Hydrogen peroxide is a strong oxidizer - it does not burn, but it supports combustion. It release oxygen, which is what supports combustion.

Something about this does not ring true. I have routinely handled 35 and 50 percent H2O2 without problems. I am careful with it, but not overly cautious. I have transported this in my car. Yes, I do know what I am doing, I am a chemist, an chemical engineer and a researcher,


66 posted on 03/25/2010 6:30:33 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GovernmentShrinker; BunnySlippers

“...I’m sure there are already limitations on shipment of large qunatities of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide ...”

35 and 50 percent hydrogen peroxide is shipped in 55 gal polyethylene drums by the truckload. It is used agriculturally. It is used to sterilize milking parlors on dairy farms. It is metered into farm animal drinking water, because it helps keep them disease free. In some countries H2O2 is used to treat raw milk to deal with potential bacteria, rather than pasteurizing it.

Hydrogen peroxide is also used as a tool of alternative medicine. If there is any attempt on the part of the FDA to restrict its availability, it would be because of this. What works for animals works for people too. The FDA does not like anything that works for people in preventing or curing disease, unless it is something expensive that comes from the drug companies.


67 posted on 03/25/2010 6:49:09 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I’m sure that such shipping requires HAZMAT permits, and that the H2O2 is freshly manufactured (including being laced with stabilizers) and packaged.

Re H2O2 in alternative medicine (which I’m generally a big supporter of), what little I’ve read about it suggests it’s bunk. But nobody is going to outlaw off-the-shelf purchases of small bottles of 3% H2O2, and any alternative medicine practitioner who’s actually introducing anything stronger than that into a human being is a dangerous quack.


68 posted on 03/25/2010 8:36:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You do not know what you are talking about regarding alternative use. I know personally several people who have cured the cancer in their own bodies using 35% H2O2 food grade (not stabilized), building up to 25 drops 3 times a day, for an extended interval of time. It is not dangerous. I have tried it myself to see the effect on me (I experiment, but only on me). This is not new. Many have done it. Many have cured cancer with H2O2, and we are not talking about the ‘stabilized’ 3% stuff.

Google it.


69 posted on 03/25/2010 9:27:42 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

And yes, shipping does require HAZMAT permits, but no big deal. Smaller quantities, gallons, can also be shipped, requiring same permits.


70 posted on 03/25/2010 9:29:21 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Nobody is injecting, swallowing, or topically applying 35% H2O2. They may be *starting* with 35%, but if so, they’re hugely diluting it before use. Food grade H2O2 is available in 3% (as well as 6% and 7%). Since it needs to be diluted to those levels or lower, before any type of therapeutic use, restrictions on off-the-shelf or internet sales of large volumes of higher concentrations wouldn’t interfere with anyone using it as an alternative medical treatment.

While I don’t believe there’s any evidence for its efficacy as a cancer treatment, I fully support the right of any mentally competent adult to try it if they want to. Even if it has no real biochemical effect on cancer, it may provide a placebo effect in some cases, and that’s often the main effectiveness of allopathic medical treatments anyway, so might as well enjoy a do-it-yourself placebo benefit at much lower cost.


71 posted on 03/26/2010 12:03:05 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You are posting as though I said things I did not say. Now for some statistics -

When someone chooses to go to the oncologist for cancer treatment know that on average the treatment has at least a 95% chance of failure.

After the doctor says, I can’t do any more for you, here’s morphine, get your affairs in order, and that person goes for alternative treatment, the success rate is 50%.

When the person does not do chemo, radiation etc and goes in the beginning for alternative treatment, the success rate is greater than 90%.

No placebo effect involved in these statistics. So go for the oncologist when it is your turn. We all make our own choices. I choose life and wellness.

And btw, drugstore H2O2 is not food grade. I would never use any of the 3%, 6%, 7% non-food grade internally. These have stabilizers that you should not put into your body. I also do not buy those diluted solutions. If I want 3 or 5 or 10 percent, I make my own by deluting 35% food grade.


72 posted on 03/26/2010 2:16:28 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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