Posted on 03/22/2010 11:26:52 PM PDT by Chet 99
A woman is in serious condition after being attacked by her own dog at Portland in western Victoria.
Ambulance officers say both of the woman's arms are badly injured and they described one of them as being "partially amputated".
She also has horrific facial injuries.
Police believe a family member alerted neighbours to the attack at the woman's flat in Pile Street.
When the neighbours arrived, they could see the woman being mauled by the pit bull Staffordshire cross.
They entered the house by smashing a glass panel in the front door.
(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...
Some people are pretty thin skinned I guess. :O)
Good one......lol
I don't know if he wants the breed banned or if he is simply trying to warn people about the breed, which is a public service if that is what he is trying to do. People need to know that Pit Bulls, regardless of the fact some of them never hurt anyone, are the most likely dog to turn on their master and savage them. I say this as a person whose daughter owned a pit bull that never harmed a fly and died in his sleep peacefully after 13 years of life.
Regardless of that, pit bulls will attack/kill more frequently than other breeds. Chet 99 does nothing more than post news articles, he doesn't make them up, he posts truthful articles, something liberals don't do.
It is NOT a liberal tactic to tell the truth. If Chet lied about pit bulls and posted articles of his own invention then you could call him a liberal.
You, OTH, are using liberal tactics by attacking Chet for simply posting the articles, regardless if you want to face the facts of those actions or not.
Yeah, old Chet sure is a “messenger” alright. He sits around at home and posts articles on FR to feed his obsession. A real messenger gets out in his community and educates, as opposed to cut and pasting crap on a conservative website. No offense to you, but most conservatives have common sense when it comes to dangerous animals, and it has been proven that there are over 20 breeds that are constantly mistaken for being pitt bulls. Chet is a joke.
1) Only the government can censor
2) Over 20 breeds are mistaken for Pitt Bulls
You obviously didnt read it right or you have a mistaken impression.
I was merely informing the Poster of the attack that numbers 4&% were posting. Suggest you read their posts,My suggestion that the animals are kind and loyal is sarcasm.
Pitt bulls are very intimidating animals, The purchasers and owners of them know this. It is more tham likely the reason they bought them. They are surprised when their darling pets try to eat them. They seem to think it’s ok for their pets to intimidate their neighbors.
Great post!
It seems few here understand the first word in Free Republic.
Sometimes, I wonder why they’re actually here. Buncha freaking nannies.
Actually, you completely misread my post. I wasn’t ridiculing him at all, I was asking a serious quesiton.
Honestly, I have no idea where you got the idea that I was being disrespectful or ridiculing the poster...much less using vitriol. My post was COMPLETELY misread.
Pit bulls do not attack more frequently than other breeds, but their attacks garner much more attention from the media, however, and this is evidenced by the fact that just today, there were an average of 13 thousand dog attacks in this country, but you only heard about the ones involving pit bulls.
Reporters are not required to notify the public of every dog attack, just as they are not obligated to ensure their source information is reputable. They simply see ratings and most have no sense of ethics any longer. They are one of the main reasons that generation after generation, the public moves from breed to breed, both villifying and popularizing them with the wrong crowds. A few decades ago, we saw the same thing happen with German Shepherds, and it was at the same time they were experiencing extreme popularity. There was also a time for Rotties and Dobies, also when those breeds were extremely popular, and even in the 1800’s there was a time for Bloodhounds, a breed made popular by playhouses that used the most vicious-looking dogs they could find to draw in crowds for Uncle Tom’s Cabin. This kind of sensationalism and subsequent hysteria (and popularity with the wrong crowd, making things worse) has been going on as long as we have paid enough attention to make note of it.
As for Chet spreading the word about pit bulls, I really don’t think that is necessary considering the amount of notoriety they already have from irresponsible owners and the media. It’s not like he’s the underdog here, as most people not involved in biology or animal behavior tend to share the same view.
Also, pit bulls have never been shown to be more likely to attack their owners compared to other breeds. In fact, even though they are the most popular breed in many places right now, they are still not topping the charts as the number one biter. There are close to ten million pit bulls alive in this country right now, yet less than a half of a half of a percent of them end up on the news.
Why would anyone want to take the most miniscule percentage of them and consider that the rule? Not to mention that before pit bulls were popular, there were the same average number of fatalities every year from dogs. The numbers have been slowly rising for decades due to the increase in both human and dog populations, but other than that they have remained consistently rare. And even with pit bulls representing around 60% of the medium to large breed dog population, last year 19 people were killed by dogs that were not pit bulls.
If we decided to ban pit bulls, as some places have done, we would find attacks from pit bulls decline, while attacks by other dogs rise. This happened in Denver, a place that boasted about pit bull attacks declining while hiding the fact that the overall attack numbers did not change, and in the UK, their attack numbers have risen quite a bit since their bans.
Several countries that have already been through that have seen that bans do not work and are now repealing them and implementing responsible ownership laws instead. Calgary is an excellent example of a place that decided to pass the right laws to fix the problem. They did not ban pit bulls or any other breed. They passed laws making pet owners more responsible, and have since seen attacks by all dogs decline dramatically, as well as having over 90% of their population of dogs licensed, which is unheard of.
If you are still reading, here are some links that might be of interest to you:
www.cdc.gov - This one has a pretty comprehensive study done over a period of a couple decades, and goes into great detail about the ineffectiveness of breed bans and the effects of irresponsible dog ownership relating to dog bite fatalities.
www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com - This has an entire book available free of charge that delves into the history of the dog bite epidemic, all the way back to the 1800’s, along with the social and economic issues that are always so prevalent in these situations.
www.atts.org - This is a site that shows the statistics for dogs of every breed that are tested yearly for unprovoked aggression. You can see where your breed of choice ranks among the others, as well as where pit bull-type dogs rank. You might be surprised by this, as they do score pretty well. Of course, the people testing their dogs are probably not going to be your run-of-the-mill ignorant dog owners either, but I guess that is the point after all.
www.kcdogblog.com - This site is a great resource for dog attacks, current legislation being passed, positive pit bull press, and everything in between. You can also see last year’s total number of fatalities, broken down by breed, the situation the dogs were in, the condition of the dogs, and the median income level of the area, as these have been found to correlate, no matter the breed involved.
Sorry, you are wrong. Pit bulls, by statistics, attack, injure and kill more people than any other breed. You are just fooling yourself if you think differently.
Right now, pit bulls are the most popular dog. They are also popular with the wrong people, and do need a strong owner willing to exercise and train them. They are working dogs, as are Malinois, and I would not recommend them to everyone. However, compared to their population, they are not attacking in greater numbers. They might represent a higher percentage of attacks in certain areas, but according to shelter records and registries, they outnumber most other dogs, so it only makes sense that their attack numbers would be up there. Labs are the number one biters in Colorado, according to a study done from 2007 to 2008. In that study, it was also found that for all dogs that have had ten or more attacks, pit bulls ranked 7th in severity.
I am not fooling myself. I started out hating this breed and tried my best to prove to a friend that his four pit bulls were dangerous. Problem is, I am an honest person and I could never find proof from a reputable source, but plenty to the contrary. I’m still waiting for the proof that I was right about his dogs, so if you find it (not media reports, as they mean squat to someone who has read almost every study out there regarding the subject) please let me know.
Forgot to ask, but what does it matter to anyone if a breed appears to have higher attack stats if taking them away doesn’t reduce deaths? Is it simply more comforting to know that 17 to 35 people a year are being killed by non- pit bull-type dogs? That was the case before pit bulls were popular, and continues to be the case in places that currently have bans.
Actually, Venturer, my post was directed at the other guy (not Chet either). I pinged you because of the post the other guy made to you. I’m on your side with respect to the danger this breed represents.
If I did misread your post, I offer my sincere apology. I was responding to the numerous vitriolic comments aimed at Chet on this and other threads he’s posted.
I can agree to that. I am not usually given to making rude comments. But, there have been a few people who have rankled me to the point where I admit that I’ve been less than genial with then in return. Retaking stock in light of current events is in order.
I was actually thinking about taking an FR break for a while.
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