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Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain
Princeton University ^ | March 22, 2010 | Hilary Parker

Posted on 03/22/2010 1:19:34 PM PDT by dan1123

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To: Chickensoup

The engine tanked and the repair facility checked the gas and they said alchohl was the culprit.

Now the greenies and corn farmers want to mandate a 20% mixture .


41 posted on 03/22/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: dan1123
YES!!! For years, I have had problems with my weight despite portion control and quality of food, and my triglycerides (always above 499 when tested, which was off the range) and doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong--also suffered daily and nightly migraine headaches--in addition, was hungry all the time. Learned I was hypothyroid but had little trouble getting that under control, yet still had all the other symptoms. Someone told me to cut HFCS out of my diet as much as possible. Never heard of the stuff, went to the grocery store one day and started reading labels and got the shock of my life--EVERYTHING, nearly every item in the store, even the so-called 'healthy choice' type items, had HFCS in the ingredients. I found very little at that time that did not, other than fresh fruit, veggies, and meat that you cook yourself!! Started carefully monitoring everything coming in to the house. Migraines disappeared like magic, weight gain stopped (although I still have a lot to lose), and hunger cravings also disappeared for the most part. Found a few companies that had items without it, Pepperidge Farm had some bread and bagels that were HFCS free, for example (but not all). Lately we've notice more and more items having the phrase NO HFCS on the labels, so it's easier to shop for us. There was a commercial series for a short while promoting HFCS that used to have me screaming at the tv--'it's like sugar, fine with moderation'--really? WHEN EVERYTHING IN THE GROCERY STORE JUSTABOUT HAS HFCS IN IT?!?!? Corn Refiner's Assoc. commercial Glad to see that connections are being made between HFCS and obesity finally! I can always tell when I eat something outside of home that has HFCS in it--instant migraine!
42 posted on 03/22/2010 2:07:55 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: pillut48

Forgot to add that my triglyceride levels are now in the normal range—all these things are affected by HFCS, so I don’t think it’s a coincidence my problems ended for the most part when I restricted it from my and my family’s diet.


43 posted on 03/22/2010 2:13:01 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: pillut48
FYI

"Check the Passover section of your supermarket. Some soda companies produce a sugar/sucrose-based version of their products around Passover for Jews who are restricted by custom from eating corn during this time.

Coca-Cola produces a version of Coke without corn syrup that can be identified by a yellow cap and is considered by some to taste better than Coke Zero, which is also free of corn syrup but contains artificial sweeteners, not sugar."

44 posted on 03/22/2010 2:13:21 PM PDT by spectre ( Spectre's wife)
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To: dan1123
Rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained significantly more weight than those with access to table sugar...


45 posted on 03/22/2010 2:15:38 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: MichiganConservative

You mean protect congressmen from sugar produciong states.


46 posted on 03/22/2010 2:26:32 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: devistate one four
The engine tanked and the repair facility checked the gas and they said alchohl was the culprit.

What actually tanked? Engine (burnt pistons and valves), or fuel supply system? I've used methanol in both racing Karts and 800 horse-power sprint cars. I know ethanol is different from methanol, but they are close enough that the changes made for one will usually accommodate the other.

Firt thing is they don't like the same rubber fuel lines your gasoline-powered engines have always used - they eat them up, melt them from the inside out. The methanol-powered Karts couldn't use the standard black rubber fuel line that the gasoline engines used, it was polyurethane.

Second, they leave behind a residue that can clog things up - for the Karts, the remedy was running a few ounces of WD-40 through the main line, carb, and into the engine before packing it up at the end of the day. This got rid of any residual methanol, lubricated things (methanol works to dry things out), and eliminated the potential for corrosive deposites left behind when the methanol evaporated.

47 posted on 03/22/2010 2:32:10 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: utahagen

Obviously the nutrient quality of your food matters so a calorie is scientifically not just a calorie. But for practical purposes it is. What the average fatso does is look at a bunch of soda or cookies with “natural sugar” and decides “oh look no high fructose corn syrup. I can eat the whole box.” I see alot of people delude themselves into thinking they can get away with eating a ton of fruit or drinking gallons of orange juice. Bottom line is moderating your sugar/carb intake while creating an overall calorie deficit is the key to losing weight. Just avoiding the real crap like refined flour and HFCS will make you feel better but won’t necessarily make you lean.


48 posted on 03/22/2010 2:57:01 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Callahan
I agree. My disagreement is with people who pooh-pooh high-protein diets. I think most fat people — not all, but most — cannot eat refined carbs in moderation.
49 posted on 03/22/2010 3:40:14 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Callahan
Obviously the nutrient quality of your food matters so a calorie is scientifically not just a calorie. But for practical purposes it is.

But in the study, the rats ingested exactly the same thing in the exact same amounts, and the ones who had HFCS got fatter. It wasn't nutrient quality in the food, the only difference was switching sugar with HFCS.

50 posted on 03/22/2010 4:46:10 PM PDT by dan1123 (Free condoms for teens to have safe sex is like giving them bullet-proof vests for safe gun play)
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To: utahagen

I have been on a fitness kick for the last 6 months after I got sick of comparing myself to my always ripped lifeguard brother. (Now down 40lbs—beer gut to six pack!) I’m sort of in health nazi mode right now and I love to talk about this stuff so forgive me if I keep posting on these diet threads. I eat a very simple whole-food oriented high protein, relatively low carb diet and never felt or looked better. It’s definitely the way to go.

Certainly agreed. People who can’t get a handle on their weight usually have a psychological addiction to carbs/junk and a deluded concept of how many calories they really eat/burn.


51 posted on 03/22/2010 5:12:30 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: dan1123

I said “for practical purposes” meaning how people approach their diet in real life. I have no doubt that regular sugar is preferable to high fructose corn syrup (I personally avoid the latter whenever possible) but you still have to really watch how much sugar is in your food. It cracks me up to see people at Whole Foods loading up on these sugary, calorie-filled “Natural Sodas.”


52 posted on 03/22/2010 5:21:22 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: dan1123

In a seperate experiment in Alabama, I can vouch that it DOES cause excessive weight gain.


53 posted on 03/22/2010 5:27:11 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I’m not sure about that.
The name of the place that rented the sleds is:
Trckside. Eagle River, Wi.

They could definatley tell you more.

It sounds like you are into motors a lot more than I am.

Good luck


54 posted on 03/22/2010 5:40:49 PM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: devistate one four
It sounds like you are into motors a lot more than I am.

I used to be. Now with the Cubanesque takeover of this country, I may very well be again.

55 posted on 03/22/2010 6:18:17 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: utahagen
My disagreement is with people who pooh-pooh high-protein diets. I think most fat people — not all, but most — cannot eat refined carbs in moderation.

When I was in the Air Force, I gained a little weight. They put me on the fat-boy program which was a low-fat, carb rich diet. I didn't lose more than a pound or two. I was doing mandatory aerobics thrice-weekly and playing full-court basketball with a lot of my buddies almost daily. That lack of weight loss with all the exercise I was doing really made me think about what was going on.

Now, I'm way too fat (nobody's fault but mine), and I'm looking to Atkins as a solution. It's amazing how much crap is in packaged food these days.

After I lose the weight, I'll be likely going on a whole/real food for life plan. Basically, it's "eat food, not too much, mostly plants."

56 posted on 03/22/2010 6:35:16 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: databoss

... corn to fatten hogs and cattle ...

Yep, our feed mill’s nutritionist calls corn the gold standard for fattening livestock.

So, corn is starchy and fattening. Who knew?


57 posted on 03/22/2010 6:43:02 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: muawiyah
Here's a video that goes into a detailed explanation of why your string of logic is utterly illogical.

Sugar: The Bitter Truth

58 posted on 03/23/2010 12:13:37 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Freedom of the Press?! I need Freedom FROM THE PRESS!)
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To: spectre
The original passover restrictions involved grains containing "wheat gluten" ~ which are wheat, barley and rye.

Through the centuries rice got added (both species I believe), then oats and other grains were added to the restricted list. So far soybeans aren't on the list (which thoughtfully allows devout folks to continue with a heavy sashimi diet through the High Holy Days).

Given that the Hebrews at the time of Passover had had experience with other grains than those with wheat gluten, but did not prohibit their use, may I humbly suggest it was the "wheat gluten" that was targeted, not the fermentation possibilities.

Eventually some smart guy will figure this all out.

59 posted on 03/23/2010 4:59:15 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: IYAS9YAS

Cubanesque takeover?

I don’t understand that. Please explain.

Viet vet. What year and with what outfit?

I spent some time there with the 3rd Marine division.


60 posted on 03/23/2010 6:44:07 AM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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