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To: Natural Law; wtc911; Quix; JoeProBono; Alex Murphy; BlueDragon; Cardhu; count-your-change; ...
the Catholic Church has been extremely proactive in dealing with this problem as compared to all other similar institutions. All published data clearly shows that sexual abuse by Protestant clergy is five to ten times higher than among Catholic clergy.

Alex Murphy has kindly provided evidence proving that idiotic statistic is backwards. Actually, our own lying eyes line up with the real statistics found here...

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"... The John Jay Study (see threads here, here, and outside coverage here) - commissioned by the U.S. Catholic Bishops' National Review Board itself - found that the number of Catholic priest abusers equalled four percent of the entire Catholic priest population. The John Jay study's findings are more than conclusive - they're exhaustive of the entire US population of Catholic priests. Now by comparison, every study I've been shown of "Protestant" abuse included volunteers and laypersons, something the John Jay Study did not cover among Catholic parishes; if we exclude them from the "Protestant" studies (to create a "pastor vs priest" apple-to-apple comparison), we arrive at a roughly 1% abuse rate for all "Protestant" pastors, or (in other words) at least a four times greater likelihood that any given Catholic priest will be a sexual predator as compared to any given "Protestant" pastor. And that's according to the numbers and studies that Catholics keep telling me about.

In short, any raw numbers (i.e. "x number of claims filed per year") are meaningless. What's more telling is the percentage of the abusers out of the whole, and in that regard, the Catholic Church is far sicker than the "Protestant" Church. In that regard, the John Jay Study is positively damning.

The bottom line is that the Roman Catholic church is littered with pedophile priests, and apparently, that suits Rome just fine. If it didn't, Ratzinger (who before he was pope, was in charge of the Office of the Inquisition from 1981 to 2005, tasked with covering up the sex abuse scandals) would have done something substantial to rid the church of these criminals who destroy children, families, communities and churches.

But he didn't. Instead he reiterated the threat of excommunication for anyone who went outside the church to a lawyer, a police officer, a parent or a teacher with these accusations.

Ratzinger was accused in court of an illegal cover-up and the only way he stayed out of jail was to plead diplomatic immunity.

Ratzinger a victim? lol. Only in Oz.

DELIVER US FROM EVIL

93 posted on 03/20/2010 11:03:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
“....the Catholic Church has been extremely proactive in dealing with this problem as compared to all other similar institutions.”

But that's just the point. The Catholic Church asserts that there are no similar institutions. It sees its self as “the mystical body of Christ”, “the one true Church” passed from Peter down through the years til today, whose priests and under priests are called by God to their vocation. The Protestant churches are therefore heretical and others schismatic or “cults”.

So saying, “Well, we're no worse than they are when it comes to sexual abuse of minors, etc.” sounds like immorality is just a matter of body counts.

Jesus gave us a principle concerning responsibility at Luke 12:48,
“But he that knew not and did things worthy of stripes shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more”.

Is that such a difficult concept? Imagine the faithless steward defending himself by saying he's not as bad as the other stewards and how that would be taken by the master.

95 posted on 03/21/2010 12:35:31 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law

96 posted on 03/21/2010 5:39:33 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thx sobering.


105 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:22 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; All
Alex Murphy has kindly provided evidence proving that idiotic statistic is backwards. Actually, our own lying eyes line up with the real statistics found here..."

This is typical of your scholarly skills, or lack thereof. Whereas I have performed an exhaustive search on the subject and not denied the problem in the Catholic Church you have stopped researching the moment you found what looks to be a corroborative study and chosen to even deny denial.

People and human corruption are not different religion to religion and denomination to denomination. The Catholic Church's proactive stance and the blind denial of so many of the Protestant organizations largely explain the difference in the abuse rates. In other words, your denial makes you complicit in the abuse of your fellow church members. Rave on, sleep well and I will keep those poor Protestant lads in my prayers.

106 posted on 03/21/2010 7:45:00 AM PDT by Natural Law
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