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Intel's Core i7-980X Extreme Edition - Ready for Sick Scores? ( Some History also )
Techgage ^ | March 10, 2010 | Rob Williams

Posted on 03/18/2010 11:15:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: citizen
"I’m sticking w/ my 486."

Pffffft. Who are you trying to impress??


21 posted on 03/18/2010 12:08:47 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: fso301

Ripping a DVD does not take much CPU power. Try converting that video and you are in a different world.


22 posted on 03/18/2010 12:10:44 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc
Try converting a full HD AVC video from a camera, down converting to 720p and putting it into a mkv file. You might schedule an overnight trip to occupy yourself.

Ok. Now you made me curious. I haven't tried ripping an HD 1080i/p qualtiy video. The DVD I ripped this past weekend was 720p.

23 posted on 03/18/2010 12:14:20 PM PDT by fso301
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To: newfreep

Thats an interesting question about Pong. The _original_ pong (coin operated) that was produced and actually started all the rage, was a hardware implementation. No software. There is someone who has written a digital circuit simulator that runs Pong, but its super slow, about 1fps on the fastest PC’s available today.


24 posted on 03/18/2010 12:15:00 PM PDT by Paradox (The Party of Know.)
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To: rednesss
you will be able to utilize this processor fully

I think this is raises an interesting point....

If one buys a high end sports car....does the buyer worry about :

Utilizing all of the power FULLY?

25 posted on 03/18/2010 12:21:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: dangerdoc
Ripping a DVD does not take much CPU power. Try converting that video and you are in a different world.

The conversion was to MPEG-2 which I believe to be less complex than the MPEG-4 conversion you did. I'm curious and am going to try this.

26 posted on 03/18/2010 12:21:50 PM PDT by fso301
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To: newfreep

What if you can’t even see the little white spot move...ie it is just a blur.....


27 posted on 03/18/2010 12:22:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Paradox
a digital circuit simulator that runs Pong, but its super slow, about 1fps on the fastest PC’s available today.

Now that could be interesting...if it can do multithreading....

28 posted on 03/18/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IIRC, back in the 70’s when PONG came out, life was often a blur but for reasons other than technology. In one of my geek moments, I actually placed 4th ina city wide PONG tounament...but prizes only to top 3.


29 posted on 03/18/2010 12:25:36 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: fso301

The DVD is 480x720 pixels. If you rip it, you are just bypassing copy protection and moving the MPEG2 code to another place.

When I record TV shows, it is 1080x1920 pixels in MPEG 2 format. Unfortunately, a TV show is something like 30+ gigabytes. By removing the commercials and converting to MPEG4, I can reduce that size to about a 1/10 the size that looks the same on the TV.

Unfortunately, MPEG4 compression is very CPU intensive. With a dual core pentium, it would take like 18 hours to convert a movie or ball game. I can now do it in nearly real time (a little more than an hour per hour of video) with and my chip and it is clocked about 1/2 the speed and has 1/3 less cores.

Something like this would make shuffling video much easier. I set the computer up to record shows I like in full HD, then I put them on a hard drive and watch them at my convenience. Like a TiVo but I don’t have to worry about running out of space.


30 posted on 03/18/2010 12:26:59 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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When I record TV shows, it is 1080x1920 pixels in MPEG 2 format. Unfortunately, a TV show is something like 30+ gigabytes. By removing the commercials and converting to MPEG4, I can reduce that size to about a 1/10 the size that looks the same on the TV.

Unfortunately, MPEG4 compression is very CPU intensive. With a dual core pentium, it would take like 18 hours to convert a movie or ball game. I can now do it in nearly real time (a little more than an hour per hour of video) with and my chip and it is clocked about 1/2 the speed and has 1/3 less cores.

Thanks. While I have a good 3D video card ( I had to upgrade the PSU to support it), I don't play video games, do hi-end 3D modeling, or do things with HD video. As such, My uni-CPU PC performs professional quality photo-editing, light CAD and document creation very well for me.

I'm going to try your scenario and see what happens.

31 posted on 03/18/2010 12:45:34 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

I set my Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz to encode some video and it’ll sit there for hours at 80-85% both cores. Just depends on how hard you push it.


32 posted on 03/18/2010 12:56:18 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it quite a shame when people buy fast cars and never push them anywhere close to their capabilities.


33 posted on 03/18/2010 12:59:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: fso301
I just ripped a 65 minute DVD this past weekend on my Dell Optiplex 3.4 GHz P4. I don't remember the exact times but believe it was no longer than 15 minutes.

Do you mean "rip" as in pull it off the DVD or "rip" as in convert it to another format? Ripping is not CPU intensive. And I can believe you can convert a 65 minute DVD to another format in 15 minutes. They had achieved about 1:1 years ago with about 1.3 GHz processors.

However, that was old formats at DVD resolution that don't take much CPU power for encoding. MPEG4 H.264 is about the best CODEC out there today for quality at any bit rate, but it is also notoriously processor intensive compared to the old codecs. You need a pretty blazing multi-core (or multi-processor, or both) machine to get 1/4 time processing of DVD video with the encoding bells & whistles turned on. I'd love to see the computer that can do that with HD.

34 posted on 03/18/2010 1:10:13 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Do you mean "rip" as in pull it off the DVD or "rip" as in convert it to another format? Ripping is not CPU intensive. And I can believe you can convert a 65 minute DVD to another format in 15 minutes. They had achieved about 1:1 years ago with about 1.3 GHz processors.

.BUP -> MPEG-2.

35 posted on 03/18/2010 1:24:45 PM PDT by fso301
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.BUP -> MPEG-2.

Yeah, that's pretty easy on the processor, especially since DVDs are MPEG-2 in the first place. Try H.264, serious difference in quality at bandwidth, but takes much longer to encode, and more CPU power to decode.

36 posted on 03/18/2010 1:34:23 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Yeah, that's pretty easy on the processor, especially since DVDs are MPEG-2 in the first place. Try H.264, serious difference in quality at bandwidth, but takes much longer to encode, and more CPU power to decode.

That was the first DVD I ever ripped. I didn't explicitly time the exercise but my recollection was start to finish took about 15 minutes.

I really want to see if I can find some way to try ripping and converting HD to H.264.

I'm still happy spending small money buying used business class desktop PC's and Xeon class workstations but it is nice to know what the system limits are lest I do something that will bring a system to its knees. BTW I have a Dell Optiplex GX280 with a 3.4GHz CPU and a Dell Precision 670 workstation with dual 3.6 GHz XEON CPU's. Spent less than $500 for both and have been very, very satisfied with their performance.

37 posted on 03/18/2010 1:51:28 PM PDT by fso301
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I really want to see if I can find some way to try ripping and converting HD to H.264.

Handbrake rules. It'll rip it from the DVD and convert it at one shot. It has various encoding presets to make it easy. Or if you already have a DVD ripper, you can rip multiple DVDs to files on your hard drive and queue them up with Handbrake to convert overnight.

38 posted on 03/18/2010 1:55:10 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What’s the point? Game technology is limited to xBox/PS3 capabilities. My 3 yo run of the mill desktop plays the latest games well with all options maxed.


39 posted on 03/18/2010 2:06:34 PM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: IDFbunny

Does it play Crysis?

(inside joke for nerds)


40 posted on 03/18/2010 2:33:00 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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