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To: rbosque

It’s not only a classic “model”...I did it myself...sort of.

I lived in 1/2 of a duplex l0 months that was listed for sale/lease at $425K. 2 months before my lease expired, out of the blue, the owner offered me the place for $300K, no bargaining. She owned it outright and offered to finance the thing 15 yrs @ 7% (quite decent at the time, 1995) if I put 10% down. I wrote her a $30K check and starting making payments, shazam, the easiest RE deal of all time. The escrow people were absolutely furious at me because they made almost nothing on the deal.

You don’t by the way have to wait for the owner to kick; at least to start the idea wheels turning. Although, should he sell now he could be subject to a giant capital gain that is in most cases better handled by transferring the stepped-up basis to the heirs.

Still, strategically, you may want to start thinking about laying the groundwork for the deal now. It’s entirely a matter of the relationship you’ve developed with the current owner. *ANY* California RE deal *MUST* go thru termite inspection, even the most “as-is” of “as-is”, which itself is semi-meaningless in CA. Nevertheless, that could be a $4K-$20K affair the heirs will have to deal with off in the future, and it will be real money they have to spend. If you’ve been timely with your rent for a few years and place has some deferred mtce, those are things in your favor. They key is for you to put yourself in the place of the heirs, trying to sell a property which they have no attachment to, but which they will have to pay perhaps $20K-$25K each to sell. (assuming 3 heirs, $50K sales commish, $15K termites, $10K misc selling expenses) Yes, they got the property for free so in one sense it doesn’t “cost” them to pay those fees, (though they will have to advance termites & fixup) but you’re offering to deliver a 5 or 6% coupon to them they cannot ordinarily get.

My suggestion is to spend some time pondering this, I repeat, it is a classic situation than usually can be worked out into a very easy deal to everyone’s benefit without undue effort.


71 posted on 03/15/2010 1:28:46 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
The property was actually given to my landlord by his friend who had no heirs. The house was a gift and has been a cash cow for them for the past 12 years I've been renting it. I did ask him to sell it to me not too long ago but he turned me down. They just sold two or three houses last year so it's not like they're hurting for money. Plus, the guy is 92! You'd think he wouldn't care but his wife is pretty tight with money, she just sees the house as a money machine and won't sell. Of course, I'm not sure what the kids would do.
72 posted on 03/15/2010 1:41:39 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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