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Pink Floyd sue EMI over download royalties (claiming they are an album band...)
Guardian UK ^ | Wednesday 10 March 2010 | Sean Michaels

Posted on 03/10/2010 1:41:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise

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To: pissant

He’s very nice in person. I met him at the Porsche factory in Stuttgart.


21 posted on 03/10/2010 2:04:01 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: spunkets

Those who own publishing on the songs on radio do get paid (typically the songwriters unless they sold ownership).


22 posted on 03/10/2010 2:06:08 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

Us vs Them


23 posted on 03/10/2010 2:06:52 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

When records first came out over 100 years ago, money was in sheet music and you didn’t have to pay anyone to record that song.


24 posted on 03/10/2010 2:07:04 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Borges

Money! I’m alright jack keep your hand off of my stack!


25 posted on 03/10/2010 2:07:31 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

Which one’s Pink?


26 posted on 03/10/2010 2:07:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: norraad

Don’t you mean “Another Brickhead in The Wall”?


27 posted on 03/10/2010 2:19:57 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: dfwgator

Massa?


28 posted on 03/10/2010 2:24:45 PM PST by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: a fool in paradise
EMI's legal team dismissed this interpretation, saying the album stipulation applies only to physical releases like CDs and DVDs. "In 1999, when [the contract] was negotiated, iTunes didn't even exist," EMI lawyer Elizabeth Jones told BusinessWeek.

That would seem to argue against EMI. All rights to the music belong to Pink Floyd except those they allow to the record company. No mention of digital downloads, then now digital downloads. The furthest stretch I could see is that a digital download is the same as buying an album, but that would mean the album has to be sold intact. Without seeing the exact wording of the contract, I have to go with Pink Floyd on this.

29 posted on 03/10/2010 2:28:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (New Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: The_Reader_David
Lol

Roger Waters and integrity do not belong on the same page, let alone in the same paragraph.

You can admire their talent all you want, and “Dark Side of the Moon” was the first CD I ever bought, but these guys are hypocritical far left mouthpiece who have made fantastic livings embracing capitalism while espousing leftist government control over other people's lives.

This is a cheap attempt to retroactively pry more money out of the publishers and retailers.

I would be okay with a troop of lawyers sucking a huge fortune from both the Floyd and the Publisher, actually.

30 posted on 03/10/2010 2:28:46 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: KarlInOhio
EMI's legal team dismissed this interpretation, saying the album stipulation applies only to physical releases like CDs and DVDs

Cool! US copyright law says "phonograph" and such terms, not compact disc or song download. So according to their logic it's perfectly legal download as much music as you want without paying.

31 posted on 03/10/2010 2:40:01 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: norraad

Ok... if the songs are bundled. Why is it that they never played them this way live ? With perhaps the exception of The Wall . Contracts or not. They best be taking the Download money and running with it.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 2:43:33 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: a fool in paradise
When records first came out over 100 years ago, money was in sheet music and you didn’t have to pay anyone to record that song.

Yeah. Lawyers are such liars. They will say anything to win a case.

33 posted on 03/10/2010 2:45:26 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: a fool in paradise

Where’s Eugene with that axe? He better be careful!


34 posted on 03/10/2010 2:45:57 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: a fool in paradise
"Those who own publishing on the songs on radio do get paid . "

Waters as the songwriter does get paid, but it's a royalty on aired music, which is not a sale. Anyway, royalties for radio can be paid by minute of airtime, not per song. Waters' contract with the publisher is per album, with the stipulation that no per song sale is allowed. Waters has no contract with stations regarding long his songs must be played. Royalties for internet radio and any other download is "per song". Waters wants all downloads and internet play to be per album, as per contract.

http://www.copyright.gov/carp/webcasting_rates_final.html

35 posted on 03/10/2010 2:47:03 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Tainan
"Eugene" was classic early Floyd - slow and building to "that" climatic scream.


36 posted on 03/10/2010 2:49:05 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Borges

Dogs Pigs Sheep


37 posted on 03/10/2010 2:50:17 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: MrEdd

...or , you could spell it with a d.


38 posted on 03/10/2010 2:50:18 PM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: MrEdd

I did a bit better than you. My first CD was “Back in Black.” Loved Brian Johnson then, still love him now. Besides, he was blazing fast around the track on Top Gear a while ago.


39 posted on 03/10/2010 2:59:43 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: spunkets

“Waters’ contract with the publisher is per album, with the stipulation that no per song sale is allowed.”

So you are saying that he never saw a dime on the singles of Money, Wish You Were Here, Another Brick In The Wall, Not Now John, et al?


40 posted on 03/10/2010 11:27:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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