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To: Saundra Duffy; Utah Binger; SZonian; greyfoxx39; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; Colofornian; ...

Saundra,
You made large claims on this thread about “loving Jesus” and loving the mormon church.

Yet when I ask you which Jesus you claim to love (see post above), all I here is mormon crickets chirping in the background.

Is that because:

A. you are unsure which Jesus the mormon church teaches
B. you are unsure which you claim to love, or
C. it makes you very uncomfortable to see the difference between the Jesus Christ who is revealed in the Bible versus the man jesus the mormon church teaches about?
D. All of the above
E. None of the above (please specify)

[Ping to Inmans - this is a very good lesson about the usage of Christian words, including the name of Christ, by the mormon church and individual mormons. One we shouldn’t forget in our discussions.

I don’t claim to have any idea what SD believes, and can only ask her for clarification.

We don’t know what happens inside a person’s heart, we only know what they claim. But often, apparently, THEY do not know what they mean when they make claims here on FR and in the non-virtual world. If their claims feel good or sound good, that’s good enough for them.

The issue is, once you change the identity of the Savior to someone or something that could never save, and then claim you believe in that and love it, has it lost enough meaning to no longer save? Only faith in Christ’s free gift, the real Christ, results in salvation.

This is also a good lesson of why we need to not only show the truth, but to pray that God opens the eyes of those we witness to.]


83 posted on 03/14/2010 7:26:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Saundra Duffy; Utah Binger; SZonian; greyfoxx39; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; ...

I really do not think that SD has any real knowledge of LDS doctrine.

She claims to have a Christian background based upon her posts, but I suspect if she was really saved, she, like so many others, were immature in the Christian faith and weak in the Bible and thus easily deceived by the half truths of Mormonism. It would also constantly explain the self-identification as a “Mormon” rather than a Christian.

I believe that SD, like many other LDS, say they love and worship Jesus and that is the same Jesus of the Bible ONLY because they are TOLD that rather than investigating and researching on their own.

I have met ‘spiritually lazy’ Christians who repeat what their pastor says and don’t read the Bible on their own, but the LDS FAR, FAR surpass that laziness all the while claiming how much they ‘study’.

In reality, their ‘studies’ are all LDS church propaganda that is regurgitated over and over and over, independent research is frowned upon. A sure sign of brainwashing.


88 posted on 03/14/2010 11:06:31 AM PDT by reaganaut (Don't mind me, I did a little to much LDS in the 80's)
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