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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

The ONLY problem with public education is the failure of parents who sit on their rear ends doing nothing but complaining. You don’t like how things are being run? Then get yourself on the school board, go to the PTO meetings, be the witchy parent on the phone every day to the principal, be a room mom, volunteer in the math or reading programs, become a teacher, become a school employee, or any of a numerous things but get off your rear or shut up.


13 posted on 03/02/2010 2:14:08 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill

“The ONLY problem with public education is the failure of parents who sit on their rear ends doing nothing but complaining.”

I’m a doer. Not a sit-on-the-sidelines’er. We homeschool.

However, we have had to learn about our local high-schools because we have had foreign exchange students over the years who must go to a public school. And we are active host-parents. So we have seen both homeschooling and public school up close and involved.

Frankly, you are completely wrong in the language I quoted above. That is teacher’s union argle bargle. Our local highschool has: (1) At least 32 assistant principals (mine had 1 and was a bigger school); (2) A history teacher that tells the class the Spanish American war was an example of American paranoia about communism; and (3) An art teacher who can’t spell; and (4) An English teacher who cannot spot a triple-run-on-sentence. And that’s a small sample of the things we have learned over the years.

If you regarded the schools as a division of a company, they are producing far inferior product now than they did forty years ago at about four times the cost per pupil in real dollars. Plus, they have become a propaganda arm for every silly leftist cause you can imagine. If they were the division of a company, that would be the equivalent of the division actively promoting blowing up the company’s operations facility. In any sensible world, the division would be shut down and started over after decades of aggressive failure. That’s a radical solution to a radical problem.

It’s not just the schools.

It’s the fact teachers have to get thru education school before they can be teachers. And education school apparently consists of a lot of “how-to-teach” courses that make sure they can’t teach and little time teaching them about the subject matter of their classes.

Its the the fact that educrats control most of the boards locally and nationally that decide curriculum and text books.

It’s the fact that both my wife and I have considered running for school board. But the political reality is that anyone who does so and who is not a toady of the Teachers Union has a great big bucket of union money thrown at them in the election and will probably be defamed in the election campaign with it.

So if you pull out any leg of this structure, the other legs will just rebuild the stool. That’s why folk pose radical solutions. Radical solutions are necessary to make any change.

Parents have little say and that is deliberate. Financing used to be local. When things went south in the schools, the board faced the actual folks who were paying their taxes. Between the Serrano v. Priest type decisions, the Dept of Education etc, school money now comes mostly from States or the Feds. The guys that write the checks aren’t the parents anymore. The schools don’t care about the parents as a result.

The only general fault on the part of parents is that they don’t pull their kids out and drop the entire structure because noone shows up for school one year.


29 posted on 03/02/2010 2:53:35 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: bgill
Then get yourself on the school board, go to the PTO meetings, be the witchy parent on the phone every day to the principal, be a room mom, volunteer in the math or reading programs, become a teacher, become a school employee, or any of a numerous things but get off your rear or shut up.
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Why? So that you can fight the voting mob that wants to impose their politics, corrupt culture, and atheistic worldview on your children and your community?

The fundamental problem with socialist, single payer, government schools is that they are socialism. Socialism can not be fixed. It must be abolished.

31 posted on 03/02/2010 2:58:34 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: bgill
The ONLY problem with public education is the failure of parents

That is true. Their failure is that they do not send their children to private school or home school them. Multiculturalism is anathema to education. It matters not how often the parents yell at the principal.

57 posted on 03/03/2010 10:30:36 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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