Posted on 02/28/2010 11:59:25 PM PST by malkee
I changed not a single one of your words, I qouted you VERBATIM.
I only spelled them to indicate a particular pronunciation. Maybe that’s not the way you speak; I can’t say. The point is that it is INAPPROPRIATE to use spelling to mock a person’s pronunciation. If you can’t see this then I say you are an inconsiderate boor.
No, that's not what you did. First of all I did not "speak" those words - they were written. Second, of all you presume I may have some sort of accent - I do not. Third, you assume (you know what that means) the writer did it out of malice - I don't agree.
About ten years ago they started writing athlete's quotes verbatim. I noticed it. This has been going on for a long time.
I am curious why you are taking this so personally. Even to the point of insulting me?
Here in southern Delawre, in the recent blizzard, the EMT crews and police carried a pregnant woman 1/4 mile from her house to the ambulance in knee deep snow, for the ride to the hospital, where she delivered a healthy little boy.
Duh!
I'm sure she already has a couple of barristers ready to take the case.
Did anyone notice that he took oxycodone and sleeping pills at the same time? Anyone? The tapes of the 911 calls will reveal a great deal. This call may have been received as a lower-priority call due to the statements of the caller. 911 centers are chaotic at best during weather emergencies, and the demand for service must have been overwhelming. Ambulances, even the few equipped with 4WD, are not good vehicles for maneuvering in snow...and I know of no urban EMS services equipped with Hummers. There is also an unanswered question: What about an assist from Fire, (additional manpower, heavier vehicles, etc.) or the National Guard, who may have had a presence in the weather emergency. (They DO have Hummers!) The worst thing about this situation is the city official throwing his people under the bus without a proper investigation. That is the worst kind of grandstand play by an official. When the facts are known, and the investigation is complete (Including toxicology!), then it is time for officials to draw conclusions. Sorry, but until then, I won’t criticize either an overwhelmed 911 center (they may be good but they are never perfect), or the EMS crews who were out in that storm. I’ve done both, and I know of which I speak.
Local man came in with his truck, the local VFD 4WD truck and a couple of snowmobiles to take his ill daughter out.
Didn't get power back for 4 days though most folks around here are somewhat prepared.
Don't know all the details of this case but sounds like the gentleman died of a drug overdose.
According to the article he wasn't prioritized as an emergency, when told he would have to walk he canceled the calls so the EMS probably figured it wasn't that bad.
What I don't understand is if he was that serious, why his friends couldn't move him the quarter mile in 3 days.
911 is a joke.
OOPS! 30 hrs. not 3 days.
You seem quite dense to me.
You seem unable to appreciate that I was using your words as a hypothetical example to show how a writer could “spice up” someone’s conversation by presenting it as other than standard English - maybe hillbilly southern, West Texas Twang, whatever.
I know your words were written, not spoken, but I asked you to imagine that you spoke them. I have no idea if you have an accent or not. Again, I assumed that you have the ability to place yourself in another’s position and imagine that you do.
I am sorry if I insulted you, I agree that I should not have, but I have grown quite frustrated with my inability to get through to you on what seems to me to be a fairly elementary idea.
Reporters should not insult or game people’s accents. I don’t care how trendy it might be. It’s rude.
Alchoholism is BY FAR the most common cause. I didn’t say it was the only cause of Chronic Pancreatitis.
Acute Pancreatitis is usually caused by Gallstones, but Alcohol is also a common cause here too.
Cigarette Smoking is HUGE STRETCH for Pancreatitis. Abdominal Surgery is VERY RARELY an actual cause. It’s dubious to have either of those on the list. ERCP? Another rare cause from a test that almost no doctor wants to give. Ulcers are a bit of stretch here too. Honestly, the only other thing worth mentioning are Gallstones.
Lots of other reasons for pacreatitis. Friend is very ill from it, and ETOH was never an issue,
During the ice storm of 98 we were out of power for 11 days and I was alone with four young children in an isolated area. The town’s citizens formed afour wheel drive crew who checked on me and others twice a day and brought fresh water. My respect for four wheel drive vehicles grew immensely and so has my honor for guys in trucks.
Ummm......
I am sorry if I insulted you, I agree that I should not have, but I have grown quite frustrated with my inability to get through to you on what seems to me to be a fairly elementary idea.
Uh, okay.
I am not being dense. You are attempting to sway my opinion that quoting verbatim is okay. You have an opposite opinion. I could call you dense but I have enough respect for you (so far) to simply accept that your opinion is different.
Let me point out one thing: Which do you believe is more honest? Quoting someone directly or attempting to "quote" them based on what your interpretation of what they actually said?
Also, how do you know the reporter was trying to denigrate this woman? Is that your supposition or do you have some other information that supports your claim?
From wikipedia:
Excessive alcohol use is often cited as the most common cause of acute pancreatitis, yet gallstones are actually the most common cause. Less common causes include hypertriglyceridemia (but not hypercholesterolemia) and only when triglyceride values exceed 1500 mg/dl (16 mmol/L), hypercalcemia, viral infection (e.g., mumps), trauma (to the abdomen or elsewhere in the body) including post-ERCP (i.e., Endoscopic Retrograde Cholangiopancreatography), vasculitis (i.e., inflammation of the small blood vessels within the pancreas), and autoimmune pancreatitis. Pregnancy can also cause pancreatitis, but in some cases the development of pancreatitis is probably just a reflection of the hypertriglyceridemia which often occurs in pregnant women. Pancreas divisum, a common congenital malformation of the pancreas may underlie some cases of recurrent pancreatitis. Pancreatitis is less common in pediatric population. The more mundane, but far more common causes of pancreatitis, as mentioned above, must always be considered first.[original research?] However, the known porphyrinogenicity of many drugs, hormones, alcohol, chemicals and the association of porphyrias with autoimmune disorders and gallstones do not exclude the diagnosis of heme disorders when these explanations are used. A primary medical disorder, including an underlying undetected inborn error in metabolism, supersedes a secondary medical complication or explanation. As mentioned above, pancreatitis is less common in children but if seen, abuse or abdominal trauma should be suspected.
Really she should. Ambulance crews were 1/4 of a mile from them not once but TWICE. If they expected HIM to walk that far WHY COULDN’T THEY?
Have you seen what some of the ambulance crews look like these days? Particularly the volunteer ones.
Called an ambulace last year at the local beach for a seizing sunbather
They consisted of two little old ladies and an old man of about seventy. They couldn not have lifted a gnat.
We are on our own these days folks.
Those four words and a smart lawyer could cost the city millions.
According to some of what I read last night gallstones are the most common cause. It is a moot point anyway. The man is dead because healthy ambulance crews were too lazy to walk 1/4 of a mile.
BTW I took that list directly from the Mayo clinic’s website so if you feel that they should not be included on the list take it up with them.
I am going to go through this with you one more time. I have NO problem - repeat - NO problem with quoting verbatim.
I do have a problem with writers making fun of folks’ accents by using non-standard spellings to try to mimic the accent of the speaker with the written word. Can you try to understand the difference between quoting verbatim and mocking the speaker’s accent?
I can’t go through this again.
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