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(FROM 2004) Sea World Attack Reaffirms Whale of a Truth: Captive Orcas Can Be Dangerous
HSUS ^ | July 28, 2004

Posted on 02/24/2010 6:28:54 PM PST by beaversmom

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To: Jack Hydrazine
Rules don’t apply to women. They think they can do whatever they want without any consequences affecting them.

They also think laws should protect them from any legal consequences, either for doing things, or for not doing things.

To the contrary, I think that karma's a bitch.

41 posted on 02/25/2010 1:01:16 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: MarMema

This Killer Whale should be returned to the wild ASAP before it kills again. It doesn’t like captivity I fear, can’t say I blame him.


42 posted on 02/25/2010 3:09:49 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SkipW
"No, what he did was give animals personalities. Now we have animal rights activists who were taught to believe Disney’s crap."

So has pretty much every author who has ever written anything for children. The stupidity of some of the people who watched his movies is hardly his fault.

43 posted on 02/25/2010 3:28:08 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel (NRA))
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To: beaversmom

Cetaceans are highly, highly intelligent and complex animals. Think about it. It’d be like being in prison for a crime that never happened. Holding them in captivity for our entertainment is foolish as well as cruel. I’m very sorry about this woman being killed, but that animal should never have been there in the first place.

I have no problem with trophy hunting as long as the meat is eaten. I have no trouble with fishing as long as the head is cut off as soon as the fish is tossed on the filleting board, and I’m fine with cows, pigs, chickens, etc., being slaughtered for food, as long as they are treated humanely while alive and are dispatched quickly and humanely. God gave us dominion over the animals and expects us to treat them well. Imprisoning a beautiful wild animal that has a very long life span for our amusement is sick and, IMO, evil. It’s not and never can be a domesticated animal and not what God had in mind for them or us.


44 posted on 02/25/2010 4:10:31 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That comment reminds me of the nasty remarks I used to read on sites that I intentionally avoid now.....


45 posted on 02/25/2010 5:37:54 AM PST by 3722535r
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To: peeps36
I really hate seeing the elephants being used to give rides at the traveling fairs.

Indian Elephants are domesticated animals and have been so for nearly 3000 years.

46 posted on 02/25/2010 5:51:19 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: 3722535r

I’m not being nasty just simply giving a practical theory as to why the orca did that. I had a girlfriend who was walking with me in a neighborhood and a pitbull tried to attack her. She just happened to be on her period at that time. I theory that since the dog was downwind and smelled blood it was what attracted him to her like a moth to lightbulb. You have to keep in mind that orcas are carnivorous and can smell blood in the water miles and miles away like sharks.


47 posted on 02/25/2010 6:52:29 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: jackibutterfly

Yes I did.


48 posted on 02/25/2010 6:53:39 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"Dolphins lack olfactory receptors You have to keep in mind that orcas are carnivorous and can smell blood in the water miles and miles away like sharks."

It's a remote possibility that they may be able to taste it, but Olfactory lobes of the brain and olfactory nerves are absent in all toothed whales, indicating that they have no sense of smell.

49 posted on 02/25/2010 6:59:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MarMema
From the article you linked:

The jury did not stop Sealand's orca shows, but the city in which Sealand is based has indicated that Sealand's lease may not be renewed. In September 1991, Sealand owner Bob Wright put the three orcas up for sale. But what marine park wants to take three orcas that killed their trainer? Even before Sealand announced the whales were for sale, Sea World was preparing an application to NMFS to import them.

50 posted on 02/25/2010 6:59:13 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: MarMema

Thanks for the link


51 posted on 02/25/2010 6:59:50 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You are right about individual animal characteristics. I understand that the whale that killed the trainer a couple of days ago was recognized by the staff as being more dangerous than the others.

My reference to Disney is connected to the wild exageration he employed in his presentations. Bambi the innocent, totally sympatheyic victim and the evil hunter.

I am a life long hunter. I can’t count the number of deer I have harvested. When I see a deer I think about venison chops, roasts and hamburger. I also believe that the anti-gun sentiment that has developed in America over the years is to a degree connected to the false depiction of animals.
Like I said, I would love to spit on Disney’s grave. He is gone so I can’t spit in his face.


52 posted on 02/25/2010 9:18:18 AM PST by SkipW
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To: SkipW
I also believe that the anti-gun sentiment that has developed in America over the years is to a degree connected to the false depiction of animals.

Mostly thanks to the NRA, which knocks itself out promoting the idea that guns are for "sport", primarily hunting. The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting!

53 posted on 02/25/2010 9:34:22 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
You're exactly right, cultures and adherence to rules vary widely as you can see in any chair restaurant or store! Great point Government Shrinker! We have gone to the Orlando property but that was in 2005, so it's been quite some time. Honestly I have to tell you that we were a bit upset about missing the Shamu show after sitting there in the hot sun waiting for it, but what can you do? No one can force a huge animal to perform, especially when several of them refuse to perform. We had also had our grandson who was 6 at the time at the Dine with Shamu luncheon just prior to the Shamu show. That was wonderful and the trainers were so very informative. Our grandson loved the show, but after reading this story I was frightened considering that we had a table that was closest to where Shamu comes out of the water. Our grandson followed directions and kept his hands inside the rope partition, but we were literally less than 8 feet (I'm terrible with distances) from Shamu when he came out of the water. Photos: 1. Lunch with Shamu - trainers & whales 2. Passing by our table - grandson in lower R corner of photo. 3. When Shamu came out of water just to L of pole in last photo. He was so close to our table I had to back away to get this photo. Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket So you can see why reading this story was frightening to me. I feel terrible for the trainer, the family, and most especially the other trainers and the visitors to the park that saw this terrible incident.
54 posted on 02/25/2010 10:22:59 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They’re dolphins, not sharks.


55 posted on 02/25/2010 10:38:44 AM PST by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: beaversmom

Keeping thse animals in tanks to do tricks or for show is not only dangerous...it’s CRUEL!! I felt horrible for the zoo elephants, I could scream for the panthers, tigers kept in 10 by 10 cages on the side of the road for entertainment off florida hiways and get ticked off for these poor dolphin or whales kept captive in a tank their whole life. Some people are so blinded to empathy...


56 posted on 02/25/2010 11:49:06 AM PST by Fawn
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To: exDemMom

I think most people....not just vegetarians or animal rights people realize those animals are VICIOUS and need to be in their own natural environment...not a small cage. I like the way some of the zoos have expanded their land so the animals can roam more freely...but then again they drug them....which is wrong too.


57 posted on 02/25/2010 11:51:37 AM PST by Fawn
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To: SkipW

Humans are animals too....and dogs, cats, etc do have personalities. It’s a shame you never experienced that.....you missed alot.


58 posted on 02/25/2010 11:57:56 AM PST by Fawn
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To: SkipW

What’s stopping you?


59 posted on 02/25/2010 11:58:54 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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To: SkipW

At least you didn’t repeat the urban legend that Disney was frozen...


60 posted on 02/25/2010 1:50:53 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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