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Barack Obama ’83, My Columbia College Roommate
Columbia College Today - Alumni Corner ^ | Jan/Feb. 2009 | By Phil Boerner ’84

Posted on 02/19/2010 5:44:47 PM PST by Smokeyblue

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To: Smokeyblue
Smokey, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was not at Columbia COLLEGE, he registed at the Columbia University School of General Studies, took some courses, (no one knows what) and was granted a degree by Columbia College, which is the way it worked. This roomie guy is offering a sanitized "G" rated version of Obama's time in NYC. I want to know if he was connectd with the Black Panther stickups! Not if he was showering at they Y.

Fuggedabout The Very Reverend Manning. If Obama ain't paying him, he ought to be.

81 posted on 02/20/2010 7:54:46 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: Spaulding
OK.He likely is a Native born U.S. Citizen, and has said so before, but a Native Born U.S. Citizen is not necessarily a natural born U.S. citizen, and that is the qualification required by our constitution to become president - “born in the country of citizen parents”.

But why is it so hard to get people to understand this simple set of facts?

Obama, by concealing records has "hinted" that we check on his birth certificate, passport data, school records, etc. What he hs done is to distract from the real issue.

He certainly has "distracted" a fair number of FReepers who ought to know better.

82 posted on 02/20/2010 7:59:18 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I’m exactly the same age and remember the anti-draft stuff. Registration had just been resumed and that evil militarist Ronald Reagan had been elected.


83 posted on 02/20/2010 8:31:06 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Well, if you were there and know first hand...I stand corrected!


84 posted on 02/20/2010 9:11:57 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Luke 12:34 -- For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Columbia College is the undergraduate school at Columbia U.

It was the men's college that was originally Kings College back in 1754. Classes were suspended in 1776 for the war. It reopened in 1784 as Columbia College, the "mother college" of the University of the State of New York. The Student Homophile Union, the country's oldest gay rights advocacy group, was started there in 1966. The Black Student Organization was started in 1973. The college didn't admit women until 1983. Barnard College was the women's school. I think Barnard is still all female. One of the other students in my doctoral program in '94 was a graduate of Barnard.
85 posted on 02/20/2010 9:35:21 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Smokeyblue
Kitchen modest, but take out available, including New York bagels for only a quarter.

I lived in Brooklyn, New York, four times between 1976 and 1980.

When getting out of the 4 or 5 subway near Brooklyn College I would stop for a fresh bagel from a bakery on the same block as the subway entrance. I don't remember them costing a quarter.
86 posted on 02/20/2010 9:47:52 AM PST by aruanan
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Ray Parish, Chairman of U of I Stop the Draft Campaign, Addressing StudentsDate:Feb. 6, 1980

87 posted on 02/20/2010 9:54:36 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Tellurian

yikes...I missed that ...too funny if true.


88 posted on 02/20/2010 9:57:14 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: ModelBreaker
Hmmm. That sounds like a relic from the 60’s, not the 80’s. There was no draft in 1983. That sounds like an inauthentic detail.

Could be.

But mandatory draft registration was reintroduced in 1980, though the draft itself wasn't, so this could be a reference to that.

On the whole, 80s radicalism was pretty feeble and inauthentic. It was almost a 60s reenactor movement, copying what had come before, rather than starting anything new.

89 posted on 02/20/2010 10:02:50 AM PST by x
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To: Kenny Bunk

Smokey, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was not at Columbia COLLEGE, he registed at the Columbia University School of General Studies, took some courses, (no one knows what) and was granted a degree by Columbia College, which is the way it worked. This roomie guy is offering a sanitized “G” rated version of Obama’s time in NYC. I want to know if he was connectd with the Black Panther stickups! Not if he was showering at they Y.
Fuggedabout The Very Reverend Manning. If Obama ain’t paying him, he ought to be.


Columbia College is the undergraduate liberal arts school of Columbia University. The College of General Studies is a different, separate college for non-traditional, adult students.
Obama majored in Political Science with a concentration in Internatioal Relations while attending Columbia College and he received his BA in Poli Sci. from Columbia University.


90 posted on 02/20/2010 11:45:42 AM PST by jamese777
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To: x

“. . .80s radicalism was pretty feeble and inauthentic.”

So was a lot of 60’s radicalism. I went to college in 1969. I remember guys discussing the chicks they were going to pick up at the sit-in. I remember the “leaders” of the movement working on their tans by the pool during the spring after Kent State—going to class was optional that spring.

But now, they run our country. They can make $200,000 a year, impose all their stupid radical ideas on less enlightened people, call themselves public servants, and have sex with whatever they want and demand that everyone else celebrate.

But, they’re the ones amongst the boomers who calculated best. They understood early on that we were NOT a meritocracy but a crony capitalist state heading toward fascism. They were the first ones on the bandwagon and have done the best for themselves and their children.

Unless God counts somewhere in the equation. They they, like many of us, are in deep, deep trouble.


91 posted on 02/20/2010 1:48:58 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: jamese777
FYI in re Obama majored in Political Science with a concentration in International Relations while attending Columbia College and he received his BA in Poli Sci. from Columbia University.

Nope. He took courses through General Studies, and was granted his Baccalaureate from the College. That much even they admit. No one knows what courses, which instructors, and what grades, except Columbia University.

Of course, I am eminently correctable upon presentation of a transcript.

92 posted on 02/20/2010 2:17:26 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: Black Agnes; Pyro7480; SlowBoat407; cyborg; Rodney King; Piranha; Pitiricus; ...

Columbia Ping
93 posted on 02/20/2010 2:51:09 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Columbia College is the undergraduate school at Columbia U.
Common misconception. Actually, CC is one of 4 undergraduate colleges at Columbia. The others are the School of General Studies (non-traditional students including many ex-military), the Fu School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (the Fu part is new, named after a donor), and Barnard College for Women.
94 posted on 02/20/2010 2:54:02 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Something about he Dominicans next door?


95 posted on 02/20/2010 2:55:28 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Kenny Bunk, I wish I knew, but I've made some guesses. When I first heard the explanation, from Orly Taitz at a press conference in 2008 which included Berg, who never mentioned natural born citizen, I thought “How can that be true?” “Some Constitutional lawyer would have mentioned it.” It took some reading for me to realize that she was correct.

People, including myself, found it hard to accept that senior legislators would assiduously avoid the Article II issue. Having spent some years in the military I was sure some experienced officer, having seen men die, and seen the tortured families of the men who don't return, would raise the question. After all, fewer and fewer legislators have military experience.

Then there is the the well-funded, and with our dollars, campaign to besmirch the motives or concerns of those who take an active roll. Perhaps you too have read some of the dozens of legal briefs leading up to the campaign discussion natural born citizenship, but remarkably avoiding the very court cases in which the definition is cited and stated.

It took me some time and much reading to have no doubt that the definition we know was very much the mainstream, and exactly what our founders intended. I even came across data counting the legal citations of the time and which not only confirmed that Vattel was familiar to the legal community, Vattel was the most cited legal reference between 1789 and 1820.

What seems clear is that those in authority are not willing to protect the Constitution. Perhaps they feel that its authority has been so weakened that acting on what amounts to a jeering rebuke of our founders, Obama told everyone, “I was born a subject of the British Commonwealth.” He knew he wouldn't be challenged.

I have asked myself if McCain was a partner. McCain has received Soros funds. That is a matter of public record. Did McCain have such a feeling of entitlement that he cooperated with the Obama camp? McCain is very familiar with his issues, unfair though they may be to someone who has been a POW. The law firm defending McCain in one of the legal challenges of his ineligibility, Kendall & Ellis, had a senior partner on Obama’s campaign committee, and sponsored a Chicago Kent Law Review article challenging Article II, and of course, never referencing chief justices Marshall or Waite, or The Venus, or Happersett.

I have also begun to wonder if the GOP is avoiding the issue because they anticipate large gains in both houses with Obama in office. It is probably wishful thinking, but if and when the Constitution is observed, no act by Obama is law. Meanwhile, our legislators are, in my view, playing strategic games with our Consititution. Could decision makers have so little faith in our courts, including the Supreme Court (with its idiotic decision on CO2) that they will spring ineligibility when it will erase the most damage?

Whatever the case it is in our interest that people like you, rsxid, and some other very knowledgeable FR contributors to calmly explain what the law is, and perhaps to explain why our founders chose that precept of natural law, that parents shape the child, to help keep us free.

96 posted on 02/20/2010 4:57:28 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Smokeyblue
Hey, Phil:

Think you can talk Barry into actually releasing his transcript and graduation letter? That is, if you went to Columbia, either...

97 posted on 02/20/2010 6:12:25 PM PST by pabianice
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To: browardchad

There are several dorms on the Columbia campus. It has been many years since I attended graduate school there, but two come to mind - John Jay and Alexander Hamilton, both dorms named after former students.

At the time, in the late 60s, Columbia College was for full time male students, Barnard was for full time female students and the school of General Studies was for those who wanted to attend Columbia on a part time basis as well as full time. It made a big difference whether one attended Columbia College as opposed to GS. Those attending CC looked down their noses at those attending GS. Plus, it was much easier to gain entrance to GS.


98 posted on 02/20/2010 7:48:56 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: CdMGuy

CdM, what you said was true up until my graduation year of 1982. After that, Columbia went co-ed. While I was there, I saw many attempts by the students to revive the “feel” of the campus in the 60’s, including pro-union, pro-communist, anti-war, anti-nuke rallies.

City police were not allowed on campus because of the head-busting that took place when radicals took over the campus in ‘68 to protest the construction of a gym in Morningside Park that would not allow the neighborhood kids to use it. I know one of the people who took over the campus and gave me the radical’s tour right before I started going there.


99 posted on 02/20/2010 9:18:20 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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To: CdMGuy

Oh, and I lived in John Jay for two years - 7th floor and 9th floor. When I was there, there was a pub in the basement.


100 posted on 02/20/2010 9:20:46 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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