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Bishop Hill: Gonzo science and the Hockey Stick ( Prof Mann and the Hockeystick )
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| 8th February 2010 13:25 GMT
| Andrew Orlowski
Posted on 02/09/2010 10:05:17 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Torturing the climate numbers until they confess
Interview In 2001 the IPCC published its Third Assessment report prominently featuring a graph that became "the logo of global warming". Previous historical reconstructions didn't show our modern warm climate as particularly anomalous. This was very different, and was hailed as a "call to action". Yet Michael Mann's studies were deeply flawed. Omit one or two proxies, for example, and the scary warming 'spike' disappears. Mann's model could produce hockey stick shapes using random data, such as baseball scores, or red noise. Critics alleged that Mann's choices of data and statistical tools all cooled the Medieval Warm Period, and emphasised late 20th Century warming.
A new book recounts how the 'Hockey Stick' model was created and more intriguingly, the political and institutional defence of the indefensible. (At one stage the Hockey Stick's defenders argued that trees on different continents had "teleconnections" with each other - a claim that wouldn't be out of place in a homeopathy brochure.)
Andrew Montford, a science publisher and blogger under the name Bishop Hill, has provided the storytelling to match the detective work and persistence of another blogger, Steve McIntyre, who dismantled the Stick. Andrew talked to us about The Hockey Stick Illusion and some of the key issues it highlights.
You say the IPCC needed the Hockey Stick to be true, and that's why it got such prominence. Was this the best they could do?
If you put any of the other major temperature reconstructions in place of the Hockey Stick I think it's true to say it doesn't look so frightening. They have a Medieval Warm Period that is within a whisker of the temperatures we have now. You can make them look scarier by overlaying the instrumental record over the 20th Century part of the graph - in fact, that's part of the reason why it looks scary. I show this in the book - in Briffa series [see below].
But [these reconstructions] wouldn't convince anybody there's anything going on there at all. So yes, they needed it to convince people; and they promoted it, they had policies to sell. And when it proved to be flawed they had to stand behind it, because otherwise, they'd look stupid.
Now to the story. The preparation of the original Hockey Stick turns out to be a small part of the saga. How the issues McIntyre raised were dealt with by the scientists and the establishment is the main story.
TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Weather
KEYWORDS: amazongate; carbontrade; climatechange; climatechangedata; climategate; glaciergate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; globqalwarminghoax; ipcc; pachauri; pachaurigate
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; PhilDragoo; steelyourfaith
Republican politicians and conservative activists are launching a ballot campaign to suspend California's landmark global-warming law, in what they hope will serve as a showcase for a national backlash against climate regulations.YES, YES, and MORE YES. This is absolutely perfect. Shove that gorebull warming right up their 98deg methane excretory orifices.
Then tell 'em if they STFU and quit beathing, it will slow the CO2 emissions.
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02/09/2010 5:27:22 PM PST
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BOBTHENAILER
( EPA will rule your life)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
AH CRAP-——most of the comments made me ill.
AB 118 would have been a killer. Now CA will pay through the nose for AB 32. Disgusting
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02/09/2010 5:41:20 PM PST
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BOBTHENAILER
( EPA will rule your life)
To: BOBTHENAILER
KFI is always running a good campaign....
Listening to them at the moment...
Talking about the IPCC report,, and Jerry Brown , Arnold,...and the funny board we have out here....
We are the only state campaigning to stop Global Warming .....
Talking about Lawrence Solomon author of The Deniers
and something he wrote an article in a Canadian paper...not sure which....listing things found ....
Much of the content came from Green Advocacy groups who then were also reviewers....of the IPCC report.
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A Resource:
Some Global Warming Links:
*****************************EXCERPT********************************
Apparently, the debate isn't quite over.
(for comparison, here is the mainstream)
- Beyond the Himalayas by Lawrence Solomon, National Post, February 6, 2010
- The global warming guerrillas by Matt Ridley, The Spectator, February 3, 2010
- Global Warming Update by Walter Williams, Jewish World Review, February 3, 2010
- Credibility is what is really melting by Mark Steyn, Macleans, February 3, 2010
- Keeping Canadian students in the dark on climate by Lawrence Solomon, National Post, January 30, 2010
- Heat wave closes in on the IPCC by Terence Corcoran, National Post, January 26, 2010
- Canadian scientist says UN's global warming panel 'crossing the line' by Richard Foot, Canwest News Service, January 26, 2010
- Glacier Meltdown: Another Scientific Scandal Involving the IPCC Climate Research Group by F. William Engdahl, GlobalResearch.ca, January 23, 2010
- Climate Community Has More Egg on Face by Bill Sweet, IEEE Spectrum, January 22, 2010
- Scientists using selective temperature data, skeptics say by Richard Foot, Canwest News Service, January 20, 2010
- First Climategate, now Glaciergate by Lorne Gunter, National Post, January 20, 2010
- Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age by Gregory F. Fegel, Pravda, January 11, 2010
- Frosty, Frigid Global Warming by Ted Twietmeyer, GlobalResearch.ca, January 7, 2010
- 2009: The year climate change and global warming activists would like to forget by Tony Hake, Climate Change Examiner, December 31, 2009
- The scariest article you will read this year by James Delingpole, The Telegraph, December 30, 2009
- The Settled Science by James P. Hogan, LewRockwell.com, December 29, 2009
- German Physicists Trash Global Warming "Theory" by John OâSullivan, Climategate.com, December 26, 2009
- A 2,000-page epic of science and skepticism -- Part 2 by Terence Corcoran, National Post, December 21, 2009
- Trouble over tree rings by Terence Corcoran, National Post, December 21, 2009
- Climategate: What's the "trick" and what did it "hide"? by Terence Corcoran, National Post, December 20, 2009 (Searchable Climategate emails)
- Wikipedia's Climate Doctor by Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post, December 19, 2009
- A 2,000-page epic of science and skepticism -- Part 1 by Terence Corcoran, National Post, December 18, 2009
- My position on climate change by David Crowe, December 17, 2009
- Inconvenient truth for Al Gore as his North Pole sums don't add up by Hannah Devlin, Ben Webster, Philippe Naughton, The Times, December 15, 2009
- Climategate archives by Watts Up With That, December 15, 2009
- Is devoured polar bear cub a victim of global warming or act of nature? by Alison Brownlee, National Post, December 10, 2009
- Copenhagen climate summit: global warming 'caused by sun's radiation' by Louise Gray, Telegraph, December 8, 2009
- Rethinking Green: Eat global, not local by Kevin Libin, National Post, December 8, 2009
- Climate Change: The Global Media presents an Apocalyptic Scenario by Michel Chossudovsky, GlobalResearch, December 7, 2009
- Feed the world: grow fish in Alberta's badlands by Kevin Libin, National Post, December 7, 2009
- Rethinking Green: Save the environment: Don't take transit by Kevin Libin, National Post, December 7, 2009
- ClimateGate Could Threaten Copenhagen Climate Deal by Declan McCullagh, CBS, December 7, 2009
- Are the Russians Coming? Brief Thoughts on the Climate Change Scandal by Sean Gabb, Libertarian Enterprise, December 6, 2009
- Blue Bin Blues by Kevin Libin, National Post, December 5, 2009
- Climategate reveals 'the most influential tree in the world' by Christopher Booker, Telegraph, December 5, 2009
- The Fiction Of Climate Science by Gary Sutton, Forbes, December 4, 2009
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A recent article from Mr. Solomon....FR Thread:
Beyond the Himalayas (descriptions of 9 IPCC controversies)
**************************EXCERPT INTRO****************************
National Post [Canada] ^ | Saturday, February 6, 2010 | Lawrence Solomon
Posted on Sat 06 Feb 2010 05:34:48 PM PST by canuck_conservative
What caused a fall from grace so sudden that IPCCs insiders now demand Pachauris ouster, and that leads the Indian government to set up an Indian IPCC as a national alternative to the IPCC, declaring that it cannot rely any longer on the organization that its own representative heads?
One answer is Climategate the unauthorized release of emails in November that showed the duplicity of scientists associated with the IPCC. Unquestionably, Climategate opened the floodgates to the torrent of scandals that have since poured out, seemingly without end. Many of the new scandals, some of them sporting -gate as a suffix, were little known before the Climategate emails were released; many were well known, but not publicized by a compliant press. Their sheer number deserves cataloguing.
More WWF: The IPCCs reliance on the World Wildlife Fund as an authority in Glaciergate was no anomaly. Blogger Donna Laframboise thought to do a search on the IPCCs own site of WWF and found it turned up dozens of times, and was a source on everything from mudflows and avalanches to fish in the Mesoamerican reef.
Greenpeace et al.: Ms. Framboise then checked out Greenpeace and found that this advocacy organization, too, was an IPCC source. For example, Greenpeaces report, The Pacific in Peril, was the sole source for a claim that linked global warming to coral reef degradation. On a roll, she then found that members of other advocacy organizations, such as people from David Suzuki Foundation, Environmental Defense and Friends of the Earth were among the IPCCs expert reviewers.....
(Excerpt) Read more at network.nationalpost.com ...
To: BOBTHENAILER
The funny board is CARB....California Air Resource Board....Mary Nichols,,,,is strong arming businesses to oppose any attempts to stop the AB118 bill...guess that happened...and I thought there was mention of a referendum ....
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MoonBeam Brown apparently went on a San Francisco Radio Station yesterday and basically spoke out against anyone who opposes the Bill to attack Global Warming Causes....
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Filed. Snows coming down like crazy since approx. 7:30PM EST. Philly area may end up getting more snow then just about anywhere else on this one. Where in the dead center of the deepest projected track. Supposed to snow till seven PM Wednesday. So much for me reporting for work Wednesday 5AM. Yeah! But where I am I going to put all the new snow at. I have huge piles as is. Boo. Maybe I will have to call out the day after as well. Yeah!
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02/09/2010 7:04:44 PM PST
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Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned....)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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02/09/2010 8:31:07 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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02/09/2010 8:31:30 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
To: SunkenCiv
I just copied a part of the list....more at the link.
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