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http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm

“Two Former POWs Say They Doubt McCain Was Physically Abused

1999 - March 25, 1999, The Phoenix New Times: Ted Guy and Gordon “Swede” Larson, two former POWs, who were McCain’s senior ranking officers (SRO’s), at the time McCain says he was tortured in solitary confinement, told the New Times that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.

“Between the two of us, it’s our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as “The Plantation”],” Larson says. “. . . My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted’s knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from.”

In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to make public the records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs.”

http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm

“Brought to tears

By this time, tears were running down Alfond’s cheeks. She reached into her handbag for a handkerchief. She tried to speak: “The family members have been waiting for years — years! And now you’re shutting down.” He kept interrupting her. She tried to say, through tears, that she had issued no insults. He kept talking over her words. He said she was accusing him and others of “some conspiracy without proof, and some cover-up.” She said she was merely seeking “some answers. That is what I am asking.” He ripped into her for using the word “fiasco.” She replied: “The fiasco was the people that stepped out and said we have written the end, the final chapter to Vietnam.” “No one said that,” he shouted. “No one said what you are saying they said, Ms. Alfond.” And then, his face flaming pink, he stalked out of the room, to shouts of disfavor from members of the audience.

As with most of McCain’s remarks to Alfond, the facts in his closing blast at her were incorrect. Less than three weeks earlier, on Oct. 23, 1992, in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden, President Bush — with John McCain standing beside him — said: “Today, finally, I am convinced that we can begin writing the last chapter in the Vietnam War.”

The committee did indeed, as Alfond said they planned to do, shut down two months after the hearing.”
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Point : Fu’Kin’ McPain and Fu’Kin Kerry left MY Brothers

for dead,,,

Why would anybody support this Trash ?,,,

For any reason !...

“Mapco and Fu’Kin Kerry left MY Brothers for dead,,,”

I don’t think that has been determined, nor has McCain’s treatment while being held in Vietnam been determined. There is, however, much available to show the character of both Kerry and McCain. In a time when honor and duty were more important than one’s life Kerry would have gotten what he deserves.

McCain’s treatment of Alfond, and her party, was reprehensible, it clearly showed what kind of man he was. His running for the tall grass over Gitmo (it wasn’t about the location it was about phony claims of “torture”) also showed that whatever courage he had was depleted.

There has also been some indications that McCarran is a little unstable, this was more apparent in the 2000 campaign that the 2008 campaign... maybe he’s been undergoing treatment.

We need, as Rush as said, to do a much better job of evaluating of candidates, we also need better people to select from.