$10,000 Reward in Case of Cat Found Glued to Highway

ksfy ^ | Jan 12, 2010

[RobRoy]

Yes, many men disagree with me. Many more agree.

This is mostly a “chick” issue though.

>>I have no idea how to deal with such ignorance on your part.<<

You’ll have to demonstrate where I was being ignorant for me to consider that sentence.

[Bad Jack Bauer]

I do care about the animal. I especially have a soft spot in my heart for dogs. My dad told me once, “Dogs are a gift from God so we can know what unconditional love is like.”

I would like to someday be as good a person as my dog thinks I am.

[Sacajaweau]

Any chance that the kitten got into the glue himself?? Sure sounds like something a kitten would do...

[RobRoy]

That is why I like dogs. And you may notice that you mostly hear about this sort of stuff happening to kittens, rather than puppies. I think males (those that tend to do this sort of thing, which is a subject of another thread) tend to relate to dogs more than cats. Cat’s are not communal animals (lions notwithstanding), but humans and dogs most definitely are. I hear all sorts of stories about young (and not so young) boys torturing cats and kittens. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of a single story about anyone torturing or killing a dog or puppy, other than to get at a dogs owner.

I don’t think most men relate to cats the way they relate to dogs. They can LIKE them, think they are cute, give them human attributes, and all that, but dogs are different.

‘Course, childhood trauma of some sort regarding one of the creatures can short circuit that in a person.

[JoeProBono]

Yup. Always a chance

[The Great RJ]

Our cat’s vet in Sioux Falls was taking care of Timothy and I saw him when I stopped to ask about one our cats. It was heartbreaking to see this poor cat and maddening to think that someone would do such a cruel thing to any animal. I hope the authorities catch these people.

[DJ MacWoW]

You’ll have to demonstrate where I was being ignorant

Contradictions galore!

many men disagree with me. Many more agree.

It is not common. However, it is not all that uncommon

Torturing animals is bad behavior. I could not care less about the animal itself. It is a natural resource.

Generalizations that are contradictions. No one on this thread agrees with you. YOU have an emotional disconnect so you defend the perp.

And now I have to go. I have something better to do.

[RobRoy]

>>I do care about the animal.<<

I do to, but I see it as a sort of instinct that I allow my intellect to quickly bypass. I remember how big their brain is. I consider all animals, from an intellectual level, to be food (nutritious protein, iron, etc.) being preserved by their natural systems until it is time to harvest it.

Pets needn’t worry, however, as long as other sources are available. :)

[DJ MacWoW]

On a highway?

[chris37]

Don’t worry, kitty. Something tells me that mankind is gonna get its come uppins real soon...

[JoeProBono]

Me Too!

[RobRoy]

I see no contradiction in any of those posts. And I will pick out one you cited: “Torturing animals is bad behavior. I could not care less about the animal itself. It is a natural resource.”

It is bad behavior because it is disrespecting creation. It also demonstrates a lack of respect for creation, not to mention some “anger issues”. If you use your car to spin donuts in someones yard, I consider it bad behavior, but I could not care less about the yard itself. It can be replaced, as can a kitten. You and I seem to differ about what, precisely, makes a behavior bad.

You are arguing from an emotional perspective. That never works.

No one on this thread agrees with me - yet. Give it time.

No one on DU agrees with me either. Meh...

:)

[DJ MacWoW]

You are arguing from an emotional perspective.

Quote an emotional response.

[steve-b]

However, a person raised on a farm may have such a low respect for the “feelings” of any animal that they could do such a thing just to “watch what happens” and yet never, in their wildest dreams, consider any such cruelty to a human.

BS. If anything, people raised on a farm have a sharper understanding of the distinction between legitimate reasons to kill animals (food and self-defense) and sadistic sociopathy such as this.

Again, the sort of biped in the shape of a human who would do this is fundamentally defective. The ONLY options are to put it down, or to put the FEAR into it (via severe punishment) so that it will behave. Frankly, I don't care which, but the latter would seem to be more merciful if one does care about such things.

[Sacajaweau]

Exactly why I'm thinking that...He might make it through a field especially if it was damp.....but hit a solid surface like a pavement...It's like a "gotcha"....

I'd look around for a nearby tube....

[RobRoy]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2429923/posts?page=47#47

Your emotions are blocking you from seeing what I am saying. You are responding to your own inferences, rather than my words or implications. That is either an emotional response or just plain disingenuous.

e.g. you claim I defend the perp. Please show me where I have done that any more than it was done here: John 8: 1-11

[steve-b]

Maybe the difference is that I see all of these events in the context of why Jesus had to die on the cross for every single one of us. We all have our personal “demons” and are quick to condemn the demons of others while ignoring or minimizing our own.

My concern is with the duty of civil governance to protect human beings from the superficially humanoid creatures who are capable of such acts.

[steve-b]

This is mostly a “chick” issue though.

The only "chick" response I've seen on this thread is the one that says, "oh, well, we all have our personal demons, don't judge this perp's more harshly than you judge your own, yadda yadda yadda...".

[DJ MacWoW]

Where's the emotion?

My company is here.

[RobRoy]

>>If anything, people raised on a farm have a sharper understanding of the distinction between legitimate reasons to kill animals (food and self-defense) and sadistic sociopathy such as this.<<

But they more see animals as separate from human. That is my point. A person who can not draw a clear distinction between humans and animals (say, a sincere Peta member) and then go on to do this sort of thing would be a true menace to humans as well as kittens.

Needless to say, it is not an activity to be defended. It is bad behavior. All I am saying is that "bad apples" in different cultures act bad in different ways.

>>Again, the sort of biped in the shape of a human who would do this is fundamentally defective.<<

We are all fundamentally defective, in one way or another. Just as nobody is physically perfect (got any moles?) nobody is emotionally perfect. We all have issues. It is easier to see them in others than in ourselves. Usually.

I agree with everyone here that this was not proper behavior. Where we disagree is in our opinions regarding how "bad", relative to the ways people act bad, this behavior really is. People think there is a special place in Hell for this person. Well, what about people who do things like this:

Or this:

The culture in which we live is quickly coming to the point of "critical mass" where we will look in bewilderment at a time when we wasted a single breath on the welfare of animals while seeing the human misery around us. Frankly, we should already be there.