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To: Sectumsepra; InspectorSmith; LucyT
"With the Supreme Court’s caution in mind, the undersigned concludes that the imposition of sanctions against any of the plaintiffs is not warranted. However, the undersigned is not convinced that Dr. Taitz acted in bad faith in her communication with the Court, and there is not a sufficient basis to impose sanctions against her."

Lucas Smith told the truth when he stated that Charles Lincoln "won against Orly Taitz" in the Rivernider hearing.

Taitz wrote to Judge Snow a letter that clearly insinuated a claim that Lincoln had fraudulently signed Taitz's name to a motion filed with Snow's court. Taitz claimed that Lincoln knew, or should have known that he no authority to sign any filing on her behalf.

Based on Taitz's letter, Judge Snow was then compelled to convene an investigative hearing, to determine whether sanctions should be placed on Lincoln for making a fraudulent filing or alternatively whether sanctions should be placed on Taitz for making a false claim that Lincoln had committed fraud.

As Lucas Smith says on his Youtube page, "Charles Edward Lincoln III won against Orly Taitz...where Orly claimed that Lincoln forged her signature." This is absolutely true.

Judge Snow did not find Lincoln guilty of fraudulently forging Taitz's signature, as Taitz had claimed to the judge, even though Lincoln admitted to signing her signature.

Judge Snow found that "Lincoln correctly or incorrectly believed he was authorized to prepare, sign and file the pleading on behalf of Dr. Taitz. Additionally, the undersigned finds that plaintiff Lincoln did not prepare, sign and file this pleading in an attempt to perpetrate a fraud on this Court."

Lincoln went into the investigative hearing charged by Taitz of perpetrating a fraud on the Court and Lincoln came out of the hearing absolved by the Court of Taitz's charge. That is a win for Lincoln.

That fact that the Court declined to charge Taitz for falsely charging Lincoln with perpetrating a fraud doesn't make this a tie, it just means the Court let Taitz off the hook.

Even though Lincoln admitted signing the motion improperly in Taitz's name (he should have signed "for" Taitz, not Taitz's name), the Court clearly believed Lincoln's testimony that he believed he had a basis for believing that Taitz had authorized him to sign for her in the way that he did, and the court did not believe Taitz's claim that Lincoln had absolutely no basis to believe he could sign Taitz's name.

To the Court chose to take the word of former lawyer, Lincoln, over a current member of the bar.

Regarding the testimony of Lucas Smith and the Riverniders, in footnote 1 Judge Snow says "...the testimony of these witnesses was not material to the issues to be resolved at the hearing and will not be discussed in this Order."

While Lucas Smith's testimony may not have been material to the "issues to be resolved" his testimony was clearly material in support of the credibility of Lincoln and against the credibility of Taitz. Judge Snow believed Lincoln and declined to believe Taitz when "(S)he denied that she had ever authorized plaintiff Lincoln to sign anything for her in any case."

My conclusion is that in addition to Judge Carter, now Jude Snow has found Lucas Smith's assertions in federal court to be credible.

238 posted on 02/10/2010 1:59:56 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Why do birthers not understand the court system?

Do you really think Lincoln is out of the woods yet? This was not a final adjudication of the case.


239 posted on 02/10/2010 2:42:05 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: Seizethecarp

The undersigned notes that if plaintiff Lincoln had signed his own name “for” Dr. Taitz, the issue of fraud would not have arisen. Therefore, being duly advised, it is hereby ORDERED and ADJUDGED that no sanctions will be imposed by the Court on the plaintiffs or Dr. Taitz, and the parties and witnesses shall pay their own attorney’s fees.”

IT WAS A DRAW!....LET ME REITERATE...”no sanctions will be imposed by the Court on the plaintiffs or Dr. Taitz, and the parties and witnesses shall pay their own attorney’s fees.”

“the testimony of these witnesses was not material to the issues to be resolved at the hearing and will not be discussed in this Order.”

Therefore, Lucas’ testimony was not even considered in this hearing...There court did not state any opinion as to the credibility of Lucas testimony!

Now TELL LUCAS TO COMEBACK AS HE IS YET TO ANSWER MIK TAERG’S THREE (3) POSTS....ABOUT PROVING THAT HE INDEED WENT TO KENYA!

He can’t avoid this questions forever!


240 posted on 02/10/2010 3:35:06 PM PST by Sectumsepra
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