[Mik Taerg]

You seem to have confuded ideas about languages spoken in Kenya. So his is some help: http://www.communication.go.ke/kenya.asp?cat_id=5 Kiswahili is the national language and English the official language. That means the government business and education are conducted in English, while Swahili is the most widely spoken language......... # Kenya's African population is divided into three linguistic groups: Bantu. Consists of the Kikuyu, Embu, Kamba (Central and Eastern Province), Luhya, Kisii/Gusii (Western and Nyanza), Mijikenda (Coast Province) # Nilotes. Consists of the River lake- Luo, Kalenjin, Maasai and related groups( Rift Valley, Nyanza provinces) # Cushitic. Somali speaking group occupying eastern and North Eastern Over 42 distinct languages or dialects are spoken in Kenya. Swahili is a Lingua Franca (if you know what that means). So your claim that in Kenya Emglish names amount to a translation from Swahili is baseless. They can be traslations and translitterations from Swahili and from the dozens of sc birth.languages of Kenya. Just consider I have repeated the same questions. Being CGPGH a gvt institution (see the above gvt site) I would imagine them to use English as the working language not Swahili. A good number ok Kenyans don't speak Swahili which as English is mainly a commerical, wor and business Lingua Franca.

[InspectorSmith]

Hello GreatKim aka Mik Taerg,

No, it is you that seems to be confused about everything.

No one is arguing that English is not the official language of Kenya. Since you are so fond of quoting my eBay auctions you might quote me when in my first 3 auctions I stated that English is the official language of Kenya, THAT’S HOW I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE THERE.

Now....try to pay attention Kim......what I have been saying here is that Swahili is WRITTEN in ENGLISH. There never was a written form of Swahili until (first) the Arabs taught Swahili speakers to write in Arabic (alphabet). Then (second) Europeans taught Swahili speakers to write Swahili in English (alphabet).

I know it’s difficult for you to keep focused here Kim but hopefully now you understand.

Swahili is spelled out phonetically with the ENGLISH alpahbet. Now do you understand? I don’t think I can put this in more simpleton terms. If you don’t understand than you probably wont ever understand.

By the way, you might want to stop with Google and Wikipedia searches for your sources when you speak about Africa. This just goes further to demonstrate that you’ve never been top Africa. (Yet you claim to have spent 30 years there.)

By the way, the NATIONAL language of Kenya is SWAHILI. English is the OFFICIAL language of Kenya. Again, since you are so fond of quoting my eBay auctions you might glance over my first 3 auctions and quote me where I stated that English is the official language of Kenya.

So stop with arguments about English and Kenya.

Moving on now Kim...try to keep focused. Now let’s discuss your favorite figure....Jennifer Othigo....or is that her name???

Or is her name .....”Merry Jennifer Otieno Othiga”. Is it Othigo or Othiga? Come on now Kim. Tell us. Hey, I even have an offical Kenya source here:
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=191135&storydate=2007-08-24

Then there’s .... “Jenipher Othigo”. So what is it Kim, Jennifer or Jenipher? Hey, I have a source for that one as well:
http://www.5footkitchen.com/2008/09/jambo-from-kenya.html

Then there’s...... “Mary J Othigo”.....So which is it Kim, is it Merry or is it Mary? And hey again, I even have a very official source that one. It’s a medical directory. Yippie! (I know how you so love the online Kenyan medical directories)
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2393-9-51.pdf

By the way, which is first same, is it Jennifer or is it Merry? (Not that we know how to spell either if those names).

Then we have..... “Joyce Othigo”......wow....so is her name Jennifer is it Joyce? Those darn Kenyans. I found that one on a very official document:
http://www.popcouncil.org/pdfs/frontiers/fr_finalreports/interregional_grippsuppl.pdf

Then there’s.......”Janet Othigo”....double wow....so is her name Jennifer or Jenipher or Joyce or Janet? And again I have a very official medical source”
http://www.esdproj.org/site/DocServer/USAID_AMKENI_Integrated_Model_in_Reproducive_Health_in_K.pdf?docID=901

Then again we have the “Merry Jennifer Othigo”. Another source for MERRY vs MARY. An official Kenyan source at that.
http://www.maqweb.org/iudtoolkit/policies_guidelines/kenyafpguidelines.pdf

Then we have yet another twist....”deputy administrator Jeniffer Othigo”. Notice this time that Jeniffer is spelled with double “FF” and one “N”. While on many other online sources her name is spelled with a double “NN” and only one “F”. How do you explain this Kim??? And oh dear....that one is from an online Kenyan news source:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200801020026.html

Oh dear, oh dear.....look here....the same Kenyan news outlet has spelled her name as “ hospital’s deputy administrator, Dr Jennipher Othigo”. Notice the double “NN” now. And this time there’s not even an “F” in the name, this time they us a “P”.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200801070067.html

What now Kim, how do explain all of these different spellings and complete names?

I could go on and on and on and on. The sources for her name are all over the Internet (Kenyan sources). Medical documents and other official sites.

So now Kim, let’s say that Othigo’s name (if that’s how it’s even spelled) was on the CPGH Obama birth certificate. What would you say about all of these MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY different spellings of her name(s)???

Which one is the correct spelling? Would you judge a birth certificate with Othigo’s endorsement to be a forgery based on her name’s spelling???

I have many official sources for her name’s many different spelling. So which is correct Kim?

Come on, answer the questions Kim. After all, you are the one that brought Othigo into all of this.

Stop with the simpleton answer of, “It doesn’t matter Lucas. We’re talking about Helton here Lucas, not Othigo.”

Do you know how tremendously retarded and obtuse that an answer such as that sounds?

Here you are battling it out for months now about the HELTON vs HELTAN spelling (based on Kenyan newspaper and two Kenyan online medical directories) but yet you dismiss the MANY MANY MANY spelling of Othigo’s name being not important.

Do you understand what you are saying? Are you really that much of an underachiever / simpleton? Or are you just a silly Obot that is paid to pump out disinformation?

I have MANY official sources for the spellings of Othigo’s name(s). Many more than you could ever dream of finding for Helton. I have listed many here and can list scores more from different websites which back up each spelling.

So now, after all of this, can you sort of understand what I have been saying from the outset? When people in Kenya and other African nations are spelling out words and names in Swahili, they spell them out phonetically, the way that it sounds to them.

Do you even know what the significance of “phonetic” is? Let me rephrase (that question might go over your head.) Do you know what the definition of “ phonetic” is? Quick, off to google and wikiepdia you go. Find your answer Kim.

In closing, please do attempt to respond with answers that make just a bit of sense.

Thank you.

Respectfully,
Lucas D. Smith

PS. I’ve noticed that you yourself have written over the past few months both MARY and MERRY. I suppose that now you will just stick with just “Othigo” now since that is a much safer bet. (Even though it might might be “Othiga”. But please do tell us which is correct of ALL the names, including MERRY vs MARY. And also explain why you and how you know which is correct. PLEASE DO THIS WITH ALL THE NAMES.