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COULD ANTICHRIST BE MUSLIM?
jgrantswankjr ^ | Jan 5 | J. Grant Swank, Jr.

Posted on 01/05/2010 9:57:29 AM PST by freedomyes

What we know about the Antichrist is in the Bible. The primary passage is in The Book of Revelation, chapter 13, verses 1-10. In the same chapter, verses 11-18 is a description of the False Prophet. The Book of Revelation, from chapter 4 to its close, is presented in symbolism.

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To: freedomyes

“Could Antichrist be Muslim?”

No. Second Thessalonians 2:4.

Don’t play one part of Scripture off against another part. To do so is to try to force God into contradicting Himself. This all too common practice is the reason we have so many different denominations and sects, each convinced it has found some overarching, unifying principle of interpretation that overrules all others. In fact, this is the very spirit of antichrist, who seeks to establish confusion and doubt, and not the certainty of heaven-sent faith (Ephesians 2:8-9; John 6:43-45 et al.).

If the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are indeed the very word of God, which is, and has always been, the belief and confession of the Holy Christian Church, then “all Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17) God is, according to the testimony of the Scriptures in many different places, the Author of truth. He is truth itself. He does not contradict Himself. He does not say what is not true or will become untrue. He does not forget what He says. This is the good, almighty, and gracious God of Christianity, and not of any one denomination, sect, or individual.

To be sure, the spirit of antichrist was at work in the church (that is always his hunting ground) before the time of Muhammad, preparing the ground for him. But Muhammad and his followers have long since placed themselves outside of the church of Christ, and so are no longer hiding in the church and trying to stand in the place of the Christ - which is what the “anti-” of Antichrist really means - but standing outside of it as an open and public enemy of Christ and all who follow Him.


21 posted on 01/05/2010 11:15:17 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

they are incorrect re the rapture, too. . .

PRE-TRIB RAPTURE = HOAX

http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2009/12/pre-trib-rapture-hoax.html


22 posted on 01/05/2010 11:19:02 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: ghostkatz

I SAID ALL ALONG B. HUSSEIN = MUSLIM

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21737.shtml


23 posted on 01/05/2010 11:21:03 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: freedomyes

Is Obama the antichrist?

During his campaign in Europe he put his slogans on the Wailing Wall:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70454

The term 666 refers to how much money Salomon got in taxes one year after he ‘went rouge’ on God. This was considered an unbearable burden on the people of ancient Israel. Obama raised close to 666 million dollars and his policies will eventually raise taxes to an unbearable level.
So John with this in mind says: “His number will be a number of man. His sign will be that he will place unbearable taxes on the people”.

Jesus says in Luke 10:18: “I saw Satan as Barack Obama…”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttIBKxI2W6s
He will be considered a man of peace. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.
The bible mentions a “Head Wound” as one of the things about the Antichrist.

This means something that is a mortal wound, that will stop you in your tracks, that will make normal life impossible.

Could it be the fact that legally he is ineligible to serve?

Certainly that would have been a mortal wound for most presidential campaigns.

It has been reported that one of his first major acts as President was to federally fund stem cell research (which is superfluous since adults stem cells will do) and to fund abortions worldwide. Not only does this sound exactly like the first thing that the AntiChrist would do, Europe is already in danger of going to Sharia law because of low birth rates of Christians compared to Muslims.

While it is widely accepted that the Catholic Church will be the instrument of the devil in the end days, actually the antichrist will have a confrontation with the Catholic Church. This story broke recently:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-081111bishops,0,3307557.story

And there are ongoing conflicts with the Catholic Church and 0bama.

Nostradamus on the AntiChrist:

“When his time comes he will take advantage of the political situation

in a country to rise to power. It will not matter that he is not a

native of the country. He will take advantage of loopholes and

contrive positions. He may aggressively and audaciously seize a

position in a military organization…”

Vol 1 Pg 180

The antichrist is expected to be rather hard on Israel. This looks like it might be shaping up. It also looks like he will use the ‘fairness doctrine’ to silence talk radio, the Internet and Fox news. He has talked about a ‘civilian force as well funded as the military’ that will NOT be like Nazi brown shirts. They will be “green shirts”.The Third Secret of Fatima in addition to predicting JohnPaul II’s attempted assignation predicted that the FOLLOWING POPE would be the last. Pope Benedict XVI is now 80.

Well I am not saying he is the antichrist I am just mentioning this for consideration.

And hopefully he’ll be out of office in 2012.

Wait a minute that is the end of the Mayan Calendar!


24 posted on 01/05/2010 11:21:41 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

the author is not late but continues the discussions. . .


25 posted on 01/05/2010 11:22:29 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

bttt


26 posted on 01/05/2010 11:22:29 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: freedomyes

I think the anti-christ may be satan incarnate, since what he does is imitate when he gets the chance. He will be a muslem because that is the false religion he set up.

I may not live to hear the trumpet, but it will surely be soon. I have noticed that our longsuffering God moves very swiftly in His own time.


27 posted on 01/05/2010 11:27:33 AM PST by Ramonne
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To: freedomyes

I think his mother could be Muslim.

Daniel 11 speaks to other attributes of the antichrist:

Daniel 11:37
 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38  But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39  Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.


28 posted on 01/05/2010 11:27:52 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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To: SnakeDoctor
In Left Behind, the antichrist was European and his name was Nicolae ... so clearly he cannot be an arabic muslim.

And in every home security commercial on television, the person breaking into the house is white. So clearly a black person could never burglarize a home.
29 posted on 01/05/2010 11:28:15 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

” The term 666 refers to how much money Salomon got in taxes one year after he ‘went rouge’ on God. “...that must have been a sight!!


30 posted on 01/05/2010 11:45:53 AM PST by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: crosshairs

It was a joke.

SnakeDoc


31 posted on 01/05/2010 11:56:43 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders ...)
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To: freedomyes

Thanks Grant!


32 posted on 01/05/2010 12:50:32 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: Belteshazzar
Yes, John 5:43I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

"... his own name" refers to Hashem. The Hashemites are the people of "his Name" while Christians are people of "the Book".

I personally like the Antiochus IV theory. In "The House of Seleucus" by Edwyn Robert Bevan as found in Walter K Price's book "Antiochus". "Corpus eius cum Antiochiam portaretur, exterritis subito iumentis in fluviam abreptum non comparuit." "When his body was carried to Antioch, the beast of burden became suddenly terrified and the river snatched his body and it did not reappear." Kind of neat prototype.

33 posted on 01/05/2010 1:03:19 PM PST by Silent One
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

blessings


34 posted on 01/05/2010 1:12:14 PM PST by freedomyes
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To: freedomyes
Yes. If you want to know about the anti-christ and the fasle prophet (false Jesus) all you have to do is read this e-book. It is pretty much right on in my opinion.

Joel Richardson's Antichrist and False Prophet

35 posted on 01/05/2010 1:28:36 PM PST by LivingNet
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To: freedomyes
Before the election, when I had a little more time on my hands, I used to post your articles from time to time.

Always worth reading!

36 posted on 01/05/2010 1:51:34 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: Silent One

“I personally like the Antiochus IV theory.”

I see. Well, you make my point for me. I see “personally,” and “theory.” I also see a quotation from John 5 that while certainly true, has nothing to do with the topic of the antichrist. I also see reference to two books that, presumably, advance or support the theory you favor. So, another theory, more books, heaps of books (sound familiar?) ... and what?

I will stick with the simple, plain, clear words of the Holy Scriptures, in this case, 2 Thessalonians 2:4, which not only contradicts no other verses of the Bible but together with them, describes the Antichrist and the spirit of his theology/doctrine/teaching, which the followers of Christ are to recognize and avoid. I will also stick with letting God have the last word on what He Himself says, because Scripture really does interpret Scripture. This why, as the Apostle Peter warns all would-be theorists, “no prophecy of Scripture is on any private interpretation.” (2 Peter 1:20) Your personally favored theory is, by definition, a private (individual, personal - that is what the Greek term means) interpretation. God’s meaning, God’s interpretation, will always, always agree with what He has said in any other part of the Scriptures where the same subject is spoken of.

The Antichrist will be found within the visible church, or, as the Apostle Paul, the author of 2 Thessalonians, said “in the temple of God.” This is clearly Paul’s meaning, one the flows naturally and directly from what he wrote in another place. In Ephesians 2:19-22 Paul describes “the temple of God” and who is its “chief cornerstone.” The Antichrist, or as Paul speaks of him in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, the “lawless one,” the “son of perdition,” will stand in the midst of God’s people and there pretend to be the chief cornerstone of God’s temple, pretend to stand in the place of the Christ as mediator between God and man in order to deceive the followers of Christ into trusting in his malign imitation and not in the one Mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus. (1 Timothy 2:5) Antichrist, as a term, means “in place of Christ.” That is its indisputable meaning. That is basic Greek. It does not here mean the one who is “against Christ.” That is what “anti” usually means in English. But “antichrist” is not an English term. It is Greek. It means what the Holy Scriptures of the New Testament intend.

In other words, the Antichrist will try to make Christians think that in following him and his spirit they are still standing safely in God’s holy temple, His holy Christian Church. And many will fall for it, many will believe it. Why else would Paul, Peter, and John all warn again and again of the power of his deception, and its great danger to the soul? Why do you think there is so much confusion of this point? So many, many different theories, if you will? Who are people listening too, even in the churches of our nation that identify themselves as Christian? Some are listening to Christ. Some are listening to Antichrist. Some are just plain confused. Some mix politics with the faith, whether from the left or the right, and do not see that kingdoms come and go, but the word of God stands forever.

So, Silent One (hmmm ... interesting choice of monikers), it’s a free country - thanks be to God. You may favor what theory you wish, while watching in your personally chosen direction for the approach of what threatens you ... even as it approaches you from another direction. And remember, ideas have consequences.

Grace be to you and peace from God the Father and from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.


37 posted on 01/05/2010 2:38:21 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: freedomyes

“they are incorrect re the rapture, too. . .”

I agree with you. I know the teaching well - my great grandfather in England was contemporary with and associated with Darby in the Plymouth Brethren movement.

You included thie link, http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2009/12/pre-trib-rapture-hoax.html

From the link, “The pre-trib rapture concept was manufactured in the 1800s in an 18 year old Plymouth Brethren girl’s dream, told to her Pastor, John Darby, and then relayed to C. I. Scofield who bought into the dream as revealed truth. Scofield placed this pre-tribulation rapture notion as a footnote in his popular Bible, hence the spread of the myth.”

Actually the young girl was a follower of Edward Irving, a Presbyterian preacher in London. Darby heard about it and went to visit her. Darby and Irving both promoted the teaching. Scofield was a “student” of Darby’s writings, and much of Scofield’s Notes are based on Darby teaching, including the pre-trib teaching.


38 posted on 01/05/2010 2:52:21 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Belteshazzar

Daniel, your comments on this thread are much appreciated. You are relying on the only text with validity.


39 posted on 01/05/2010 3:08:56 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
You have to be careful interpreting Daniel: much of his prophecies were fulfilled in the person of Antiochus Epiphanes. Please, take a couple of minutes to read this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes

Here's an excerpt:

"Antiochus IV Epiphanes ("Manifest (God)", "the Illustrious"; Greek: born c. 215 BC; died 164 BC) ruled the Seleucid Empire from 175 BC until his death in 164 BC.

"While Antiochus was busy in Egypt, a false rumor spread that he had been killed...On the King's return from Egypt in 167 BC enraged by his defeat, he attacked Jerusalem and restored Menelaus, then executed many Jews."

Antiochus is the model for the Antichrist, but the passages you cited refer to Antiochus himself. There are other passages in Daniel that refer to the end-time AC.

40 posted on 01/05/2010 6:51:57 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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