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To: a fool in paradise

When I was a child, Pleasant Grove was a thriving, white working class neighborhood — a place of shady lanes, good schools, and thriving businesses.

In the 1970s, it became a hellhole. It is a ghetto now — a war zone of abandoned cars, empty shopping centers, and houses with razor-wire-topped steel fences around their yards.

What happened to Pleasant Grove? I’ll leave you all to fill in in the answer for yourselves.


16 posted on 12/18/2009 11:28:45 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan

In Houston, the locals have taken to calling Greenspoint Mall “Gunspoint Mall”.


20 posted on 12/18/2009 12:09:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: B-Chan
In the `80's folks there proudly went by the moniker "Grove Rats." Working class lower middle income, largely white.

Not the best neighborhood but not scary by any definition.

If I have reason to go there now I do not go unarmed.

Well-armed would be rather accurate.

23 posted on 12/18/2009 1:12:21 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: B-Chan
Sounds like a nice place to live (Realtor description):

Once an unincorporated area of Dallas County, Pleasant Grove operated its own school district. Now the community is part of the city of Dallas and has been annexed by the Dallas Independent School District. City services such as public transit are available, and easy access to downtown Dallas increases the desirability of the neighborhood. Some the city's major attractions including museums, theaters, and restaurants are only minutes away. Housing options in the area vary and include single family homes and apartment complexes.

Well, maybe not (street description):

1. Pleasant Grove 101 up, 40 down love it hate it

buy pleasant grove mugs, tshirts and magnets Thoedest Mutha F**** Place In Dallas. Home of da freestylas, djs, hustlaz, and headbustaz Every Block you see at least 1 n**** gettin his ass whooped. and on st. augustine n****s dien left and right in daylight by daT MeSkin laTin LeGeNd Apr 18, 2005 share this

2. pleasant grove 92 up, 42 down love it hate it buy pleasant grove mugs, tshirts and magnets Pleasant Grove is, without a doubt, the "krunkest" place in the entire Dallas metroplex. Many people are familiar with the song "Oak Cliff, 'das my hood". Grove "rats" and Oak Cliff kids argue all the time about whos more "bawlin'". According to surveys and crime statistics based on the state of Texas, Pleasant Grove has 3 times as many murders as Oak Cliff, 12 times as many rapes, 5 times as many armed robberies, and is one of the leading problems in America as far as illegaly exported arms.

All information borrowed from google.com. Look up dallas county crime statistics. I'd post the link, but it wont let me.

I stay on Elam road. I walk around here and think, "If I wasn't strapped I'd be at home". I go to school in Oak Cliff and sometimes I walk around there. In Oak Cliff I think "God damn it's nice to walk around with nothing but fake gangsters and rich kids everywhere."

In Pleasant GRove news coverage has stopped depicting violent crimes in its articles because its old news. People die here everyday, it's nothin'. In Oak Cliff, some bitch gets stabbed and spends a night in the ICU and the whole f****' hood is now gangsta.

Y'all come over here, spend 30 minutes in my hood, then go home and be f****' glad this ain't the life you gotta live.

Thowin' it up fo' PG, East side n****, what it is... PLeasant Grove is the hardest motha****' city in da WORLD.

32 posted on 12/18/2009 2:29:03 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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