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Alameda police dog bites cop, is shot to death
SFGate ^

Posted on 12/17/2009 11:18:35 AM PST by Chet 99

(12-17) 09:44 PST ALAMEDA -- An Alameda police dog trying to flush out a burglary suspect was shot and killed by an officer today after the dog attacked the officer, a police spokesman said.

Billy, a Belgian Malinois, and his handler were among those responding to a burglary at the Coast Guard Recruiting Center at 660 Central Ave. shortly before 6:15 a.m., police Lt. Bill Scott said.

Billy bit another officer assisting on the call. The dog did not let go when his handler ordered him to do so, and the officer being bitten shot him to death, Scott said.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: 2funny; doginator; donutwatch
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To: SJSAMPLE
Always a good idea to fire a shot into the air. The bullet goes to heaven and stays there.

God plucks the bullets out of the air, and adds them to His Holy Collection.

61 posted on 12/17/2009 1:05:47 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Lazamataz
It would have been much better to fire a shot through an onlooking preschool child, and then growl at the dog, "If I could do that to a kid, imagine what I'd do to you!!!"

Your brain must be a scary place, Laz...

62 posted on 12/17/2009 1:06:48 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris
Your brain must be a scary place, Laz...

I wake up in the middle of the night, bolt upright and in a cold sweat, terrified that I just *might* be Lazamataz.

63 posted on 12/17/2009 1:08:20 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Lazamataz

More of your stupid jokes Laz.


64 posted on 12/17/2009 1:08:47 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank you for giving that post what it called for: withering sarcasm.

CC

65 posted on 12/17/2009 1:17:42 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists")
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To: jveritas
Who said that's a joke?


66 posted on 12/17/2009 1:20:52 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Shhh.

;)

67 posted on 12/17/2009 1:21:32 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry, not tryin' to blow your cover.

CC

68 posted on 12/17/2009 1:26:35 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists")
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To: Celtic Conservative
And that judgement will come from other veteran cops who have "been there, done that". Not the press or bloggers. And as long as that judgement is fair and impartial he probably will not be disciplined.

I see that you have passed judgment already and you think that he should not be disciplined. As a policeman do you feel obliged to come for the defense of another policeman no matter what? Are those the ties of brotherhood?

69 posted on 12/17/2009 1:29:37 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: DesertRhino
How ignorant of you,, too much knee jerk cop-hatred there sir

I do not hate the police and you are the one having a knee jerk reaction like the policeman who shot the dog because he was scared. I wonder if you would be defending a Policeman shoots your dog in case your dog attacks him.

70 posted on 12/17/2009 1:32:32 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Chet 99

If the dog had clamped down on my flesh and wouldn’t let go, I’d shoot it, period.

I would have no idea the type of damage it could be doing to me by hanging on, or worse, by yanking or twisting—dead dog.

I’m with the cop on this one.

I believe I MIGHT give the handler a second, or two, with “Get your dog off me, or I have to shoot it!..........POP!”


71 posted on 12/17/2009 1:34:22 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: jveritas
I have not passed judgement, I have posited an opinion , the same as you did. It's just that I feel mine is a bit better informed. And as for the "ties of brotherhood" meme, I got news for you: right is right, wrong is wrong , whoever you are. And I say that absolutely dispassionately. I wish I could say the same for you. You seem to have a certain animus for law enforcement types.

Any more lessons after this one, it's gonna cost you a nickel apiece.

CC

72 posted on 12/17/2009 1:38:28 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists")
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To: Celtic Conservative
You seem to have a certain animus for law enforcement types.

Well you are very wrong officer CC. I do not carry animus against law enforcement types, none what so ever. I have great respect and appreciation of what the vast majority of police officers do but at the same time I believe that the police force is infiltrated with more thugs than any other law enforcement agency in the nation. The reason is that the police force has less discipline than other law enforcement agencies.

Despite the presence of thugs among the police I still believe that the vast majority of police officers are doing a great job in protecting and serving the people.

73 posted on 12/17/2009 1:47:15 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: pnh102

Never tried it, but I tend to doubt it. A tazer works through a complete circuit between the probes.


74 posted on 12/17/2009 1:54:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Lately, I can’t really blame people for “...certain animus for law enforcement types.”

All the sissy-cops out there torturing Americans with their plethora of lethal “non-lethal” weaponry (the same weaponry used on insurgents in Iraq and ‘Stan in some cases) is not only dangerous to our freedom, but blatantly chicken-sh*t.

It will certainly affect respect for law enforcement.

All these needle-d*** “tough guys” with their black uniforms, jackboots; looking like they’re going to fight a a conventional military, are doing themselves a disservice by intimidating good people. They seem to love their “power”, but humans loathe what they fear.

I’m no fan of the police state fashions and trends that I have witnessed of late, not at all. What those whiny little b****’s with badges did to unarmed America college kids in Philly recently is a prime example.


75 posted on 12/17/2009 1:55:55 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: hampdenkid

Sounds like he latched on and wouldn’t let go. Really too bad, from a number of perspectives. It costs a mint to train MWDs, I imagine it’s close to the same amount for civilian working dogs. And it’s a shame for both the dog and his trainer.

Colonel, USAFR


76 posted on 12/17/2009 3:22:37 PM PST by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: B Knotts

Why didn’t he fire a shot in the air and that would have scared the dog.

Because that would be irresponsible, and would endanger human beings.

____________________

AND they’re trained not to react to gunshots, so it likely wouldn’t have helped anyway.

Colonel, USAFR


77 posted on 12/17/2009 3:23:41 PM PST by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: jveritas

“It was not a split second decision about what to do with the dog, he could have simply used other methods to stop the dog beside shooting him.”

I must admit, I would never want to cause harm to a dog. However, let’s say the officer didn’t shoot the dog. What would become of it? Would it be allowed to remain a working member of the force? Who would be held responsible if the next time it happened, the dog killed a child? If the dog was retired, what responsible, knowledgeable person would have an open home (that isn’t already full of other dogs needing homes) to safely handle a dog trained to bite on command, but doesn’t always let go? The biggest no-no in Schutzhund training is a dog that won’t release on command. The same is true for police dogs, as this kind of training demands a level-headed animal, of which there are obviously very few. In my opinion, as sad as it is, the dog was unsuitable for that job, and since he’s already been trained to bite but not willing to let go, he was far too dangerous for anything but the most capable hands, which means the best thing to do is euthanasia. I don’t say this lightly. If my dog ever bit a human, I would do the same, no hesitation. There are plenty of other animals that won’t bite that need homes, and there are other dogs better suited to police work.


78 posted on 12/17/2009 5:42:14 PM PST by solosmoke
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To: jveritas

He should have used karate.


79 posted on 12/17/2009 5:45:11 PM PST by Krankor
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To: Chet 99
I usually enjoy your posts, but that was a stupid statement, IMHO, Chet.

The article clearly states the dog was not obeying the handler. Just how long did you want them to wait? Have you ever seen a police dog latch on to a suspect? Pretty difficult to "sit still and chill" as you say.

My guess if that if this was a pitbull and not a police dog, you would applaud this shoot. Seems to me that a dog biting your arm is a dog biting your arm.

80 posted on 12/17/2009 5:47:55 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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