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You are correct that this is not something that has happened overnight. You are incorrect in your assumption that we have to continue to “take it”. For someone who presents himself as an evangelical dispensationalist, you respond to the argument that there actually is a “right” and “wrong” apart from a court with insults.

I have no idea why you don't get it. I've made it abundantly clear that the legal system (one of the three branches of the government, being the Judicial Branch) makes those decisions and as far as the legal system is concerned, that's it -- it's done.

I've already given all the "provisos" regarding that, so there is no use repeating the provisos here.

Perhaps your problem is right here...

   Romans Chapter 13

 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there
   is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are
   appointed by God.

 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of
   God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want
   to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have
   praise from the same.

 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be
   afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's
   minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also
   for conscience' sake.

 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers
   attending continually to this very thing.

 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due,
   customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

 8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves
   another has fulfilled the law.

This is all based on Revelations 20. Jesus said that his Kingdom was not of this Earth (John 18:36).

Sorry, but you don't understand Jesus then... LOL...

Jesus comes in "two parts" -- Part One and Part Two... you mix up Part One with Part Two... :-)

In Part One, Jesus said His Kingdom was not of this world, because He did not come in "Part One" to set up the Kingdom that the Jews had been told all along would be set up. They expected it and they asked when He was going to do it.

Now, in Part Two -- that's when Jesus comes to set up the Kingdom, on this earth -- an earthly kingdom, ruling and reigning from the Throne of David, from Jerusalem over all the nations of the world.

Too many have a "Part One Jesus" -- thereby completely forgetting the "Part Two Jesus"... :-)

AND..., by the way, Revelation 20 is the same Bible, which is the infallible and inerrant Word of God, which speaks to all things and to all dcotrine and to all facts, exactly and without error.

So, this same Bible speaks of the Kingdom of God in many places, Revelation 20, just being one of the places... let's see what it says, because it will happen exactly like the Bible tells us it will happen...

   Revelation Chapter 20

 1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the
   bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and
   Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a
   seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the
   thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be
   released for a little while.

 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed
   to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for
   their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped
   the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads
   or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a
   thousand years.

 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years
   were finished. This is the first resurrection.

 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over
   such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God
   and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

 7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released
   from his prison

 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners
   of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose
   number is as the sand of the sea.

 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of
   the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of
   heaven and devoured them.

10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and
   brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will
   be tormented day and night forever and ever.

11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose
   face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place
   for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books
   were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life.
   And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which
   were written in the books.

13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered
   up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according
   to his works.

14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the
   second death.

15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the
   lake of fire.