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To: Favor Center
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There is apparently no point where you will stop bowing to government presumed authority. You have no line in the sand or limit. You claim our government is the one the Founders intended, but do you seriously think they risked their lives to form a government that would force us to buy health insurance, micromanage every aspect of our lives, and tax us and future generations to pay for our own slavery?

The founding fathers gave us a government that has processes and mechanisms built into it for doing whatever the people decide is good for their government (that they are under).

Now, admittedly (and it's always the case, no matter what) -- there are always going to be people who don't like what the process of the government that the founding fathers gave us -- ends up getting (for themselves).

And sure, I recognize that many conservatives don't like the results that are coming out of this government and the processes that were built into it. But, that's always the case -- whether it be conservatives (at one time) and liberals (at another time) or any other group at various other times. That's always going to happen and then whomever those groups are will say that they are "disenfranchised" from what they think is right, under that government.

For example, the last election... did I want Obama, did I vote for him, did I think that he was the best choice -- no in all cases.

But, guess what? I lost the issue of who was going to be President because 10 million more of the voting electorate voted for him than the numbers that voted for our candidate.

AND... that is exactly the "process" that the founding fathers gave us (along with our own modifications and amendments) -- even when we don't like the "results" of that process. That's it and that's what we got.

The problem is not with the founding fathers or the government they gave us -- it's with the people who are voting and influencing the system of government that we have. When their numbers and influence are greater than ours (and that's the way it turns out in many instances) -- then you end up with "results" that you don't like.

But, it's not a "perversion" of the system that does that -- it's the fact that more think differently than the conservatives do. That's the problem.

So, I would advise, for a solution to that problem -- is -- we get more conservatives in order that our numbers are great enough to change the "results" for this government, the way we see as being the right way.


But, as an aside here, what we're facing is the inexorable move towards a one-world government. And that's not all bad, although I'm having nothing to do with it and I won't vote for it.

It's not all bad, because there are two different one-world governments coming. The first one I want nothing to do with, but it's the second one-world government which will defeat the first one-world government. And it's that second one that I'm hoping hurries up and gets here. :-)

It's that particular one-world government that I'm looking forward to ruling over the entire world -- and it will change the Constitution of the United States so that many things won't be in there anymore...

270 posted on 12/20/2009 11:51:26 AM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Star Traveler

“The founding fathers gave us a government that has processes and mechanisms built into it for doing whatever the people decide is good for their government (that they are under).”

Within the limitations of the Constitution. There is a mechanism for changing THAT, but it is difficult. The more common approach used by Congress, the Courts, and the Executive is just to ignore the thing.

We are not supposed to be a Democracy or a the Oligarchy we are now.

” But, as an aside here, what we’re facing is the inexorable move towards a one-world government. And that’s not all bad, although I’m having nothing to do with it and I won’t vote for it.

It’s not all bad, because there are two different one-world governments coming. The first one I want nothing to do with, but it’s the second one-world government which will defeat the first one-world government. And it’s that second one that I’m hoping hurries up and gets here. :-)

It’s that particular one-world government that I’m looking forward to ruling over the entire world — and it will change the Constitution of the United States so that many things won’t be in there anymore...”

I presume you are talking about your quasi-Biblical beliefs of a world theocratic government led by Christ and not some more “enlightened” secular government. We aren’t supposed to stop our lives because we think the End is Nigh! Read Paul. Every generation has thought that their time was the end time spoken of in the Revelation of John.


271 posted on 12/20/2009 12:07:59 PM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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