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Apple's iPhone On Its Way To Becoming The Microsoft Windows Of Mobile
The Business Insider ^ | Saturday, December 5, 2009 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 12/06/2009 8:05:02 AM PST by Star Traveler

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To: Poser
You were saying ...

My iPhone is great except for one thing... AT&T. There are many places even in my area close to the east coast that don’t get a decent signal.

Apple will have to go with Verizon to keep their lead in the smart phone industry.

I hear that T-Mobile is coming on board next. And that makes sense since it's a GSM phone network... (and that's the network which most of the world uses).

GSM

GSM (Global System for Mobile communications: originally from Groupe Spécial Mobile) is the most popular standard for mobile phones in the world. Its promoter, the GSM Association, estimates that 80% of the global mobile market uses the standard. GSM is used by over 3 billion people across more than 212 countries and territories. Its ubiquity makes international roaming very common between mobile phone operators, enabling subscribers to use their phones in many parts of the world. GSM differs from its predecessors in that both signaling and speech channels are digital, and thus is considered a second generation (2G) mobile phone system. This has also meant that data communication was easy to build into the system. GSM EDGE is a 3G version of the protocol.

Now..., later on, Apple may supply a combo-chip that will access a variety of networks. I hear that may be coming a ways down the line from some reading I've done on it. In that case, then one would be able to hook up to the "minority network" in the world which has the other 20% of the mobile market...

Right now, the Apple iPhone is doing good to start off with the mobile network that 80% of the world's mobile phones use... :-)



21 posted on 12/06/2009 10:07:07 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: puppypusher
You were saying ...

Too each his own.As a consumer I have the final decision as to what I want to view or listen to on my IPhone,Apple does not.

And that's why you have the choice to buy another phone if you want... LOL...

What's clear though, is that the consumer market is rushing over to the iPhone because it does what they want to do in an easy fashion (no geeks needed or allowed... :-) ...) and Apple has shown it knows how to give the consumer what they want.

But, for that minority who may want something different, there are always a few niche companies around to supply your needs too...

22 posted on 12/06/2009 10:09:51 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
When the Apple Store offers a "Free Republic" app, then I will probably go out iand buy one.

My ideas for a Free Republic app: Whenever I get a reply on FR, a window will pop up with the entire FR thread.

Or...whenever something is posted to "Breaking News", my iPod goes off with the flashing "Drudge" siren and a click on the siren will bring up the thread. Of course, this has the downside of getting a lot of "I'm buying my first gun, what type of gun should I buy" threads that seem to always get into Breaking News (before the mod finds them and moves them to Chat).

23 posted on 12/06/2009 10:17:52 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 21 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: Star Traveler

I hope you don’t work for Apple because you have just convinced me to never buy one of their pc’s.You would make a terrible spokesman for. Their company.

As far as Apple go’s they know the technology of their phone so they have NO reason not to develope a capable flash player unit for the phone.


24 posted on 12/06/2009 10:19:48 AM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: Star Traveler

Apple 30%

RIM 40%

Palm 7%

That 77%

That leaves an extra 23% that dont.

40 + 23 + 7 = 70%

70% of smartphone users do not use iPhones.

And this chart is useless as it doesn’t even factor in Android, a future Windows Mobile 7 or heck did the makers of this graph ever hear of Symbian?


25 posted on 12/06/2009 10:22:56 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: VanDeKoik
You were saying ...

Apple 30%

And that's 30% in a market they had nothing at all in -- at the end of June 2007, whereas the others had been there prior to Apple's iPhone entry.

In addition (and in the same manner as some are saying now) -- back then there were pundits that said it was going nowhere and would be a flop. And instead it turned into one of the wildest successes in the market.

Fantastic isn't it!

26 posted on 12/06/2009 10:26:22 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: puppypusher
You were saying ...

I hope you don’t work for Apple because you have just convinced me to never buy one of their pc’s.You would make a terrible spokesman for. Their company.

LOL... as if I believed that...

I did get a good laugh out of it... anyway. A little birdie told me that you already had your mind made up yesterday... :-)

27 posted on 12/06/2009 10:28:06 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SamAdams76
You were saying ...

When the Apple Store offers a "Free Republic" app, then I will probably go out and buy one.

My ideas for a Free Republic app: Whenever I get a reply on FR, a window will pop up with the entire FR thread.

Now that would be a cool app, for sure...

I do read Free Republic and reply to a few posts with the iPhone. It's handy that way, too -- on the browser that the iPhone has. It can render regular web pages without problem and zoom into articles on that page.

28 posted on 12/06/2009 10:32:03 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
Don't be ridiculous. The iPhone is a bust. If it had been successful, other manufacturers would have copied the look and feel of the iPhone and started ad campaigns attacking it.

Iphone

Palm Pre

Blackberry Storm

Android Droid

In all fairness, some of the others have slide out keyboards.

29 posted on 12/06/2009 10:38:52 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball
You were saying ...

Don't be ridiculous. The iPhone is a bust.

That's what Steve Ballmer told me. And he should know; he's head of Microsoft... :-)

And if you don't believe Steve Ballmer, I mean... just look at him when he's talking to his own developers...

Steve Ballmer talking to Developers...

30 posted on 12/06/2009 10:53:00 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Um, so?

There we pundits that said Windows 7 would be nothing more than Vista part 2, and would be a flop. Since when do chimps with a blog become the source for conventional wisdom?

The point is that 70% dont use iPhones, and 2010 is going to be filled with more competition than ever. That chart shows only modest gains until Apple introduces a new model, that gets fawning saturation coverage and a jump in use as a result.

More competition and choices that arent locked into Apple’s closed system?!?!

Fantastic isn’t it!


31 posted on 12/06/2009 11:03:56 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: VanDeKoik
You were saying ...

More competition and choices that arent locked into Apple’s closed system?!?!

And the great thing about it is... for Apple products...

It sounds great to me... all right... :-)

32 posted on 12/06/2009 11:11:54 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

T-mobile sucks in my area.


33 posted on 12/06/2009 11:16:44 AM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Poser
You were saying ...

T-mobile sucks in my area.

From what I've read from many different people's comments about different services -- it's that everyone's service sucks to someone... LOL...

And it's unfortunate that it has to be you, in the case, but I'll guarantee you, you will have a line of people who will say that everyone's service sucks to someone... :-)

34 posted on 12/06/2009 11:23:03 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m referring to their network coverage. It won’t work at my place of work or my home. Both Verizon and AT&T work well in my area. Verizon is better at work and AT&T is better at home. Overall, Verizon has much better coverage in northern New England.

I have no idea how god the T-Mobile customer service is. It’s kind of a moot point since it’s not even an option.


35 posted on 12/06/2009 12:06:15 PM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Poser
You were saying ...

I’m referring to their network coverage. It won’t work at my place of work or my home.

Yeah, and that's precisely the way you're always going to come up with complaints with any service.

Every service has a boundary for where it works and where it doesn't -- and you're always going to find someone on the edge or completely out -- on any and every particular service provider.

Now in your case, you're out of the boundary for a service and in for another one. Another person may be on the edge of the boundary, thereby giving sporadic and non-dependable service. And for the few who will be out of those boundaries for this service, that's unfortunate, but that's the way it's going to be for every service.

The point of the matter is that there is always going to be some people outside of the boundary of every single service provider in the nation... :-)

Now..., what I've found with AT&T is that I've never come across any service outage areas in traveling around the country (except one). Of course, all the users of iPhone do have national roaming, so if AT&T doesn't have the coverage in an area another provider that they have a roaming arrangement with will have the coverage.

That one area where I didn't have coverage was on the Indian Nation Turnpike (part of it, somewhere south of Henryetta and somewhere north of Antlers)

36 posted on 12/06/2009 12:20:51 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: puppypusher
I went to a site this morning to check out a certain product and unfortunately I was not able to see it in action because it required a flash video player and as previously discussed Apple doesn’t have it.

So the maker of this product has decided to not offer its product to the 50,000,000 potential customers who are using either iPhones or iPod touches that might want to look at their product using their mobile devices. Too bad for them... and how stupid of them. They could have selected one of several other just as useful video display formats that WOULD have worked for those potential customers as well as all the others.

37 posted on 12/06/2009 12:23:36 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Is the iPhone on its way to being the Windows of mobile devices? PING!


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38 posted on 12/06/2009 12:26:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Star Traveler

Take a look at the Verizon, At&T and T-Mobile coverage maps in New Hampshire. Verizon is very good in almost all of the state. AT&T has some very large areas of no coverage and T-Mobile is worse yet.

Pretty much any carrier is good on the highways and in the cities. When you get to Center Barnstead, things change. In my area, the wireless carriers won’t sell to people who don’t live in their coverage area. I guess they don’t want to pay roaming charges for calls made from the home area.

I still think Apple is making a mistake by not being available on the national network with the best coverage.


39 posted on 12/06/2009 12:35:34 PM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Star Traveler

>>>Yeah, and I’m glad it won’t... :-)<<<<

Of the few plain old web browser issues I encounter, all are Flash related.


40 posted on 12/06/2009 12:35:34 PM PST by moehoward
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