I call BS on you if you think a .32 is worth spit. I call BS when you say a head shot with a .45 won't take your head off your shoulders. Maybe they were shot in the tip of their nose. And what is with all the FMJ talk. No one I know uses FMJ for protection. FMJ is for target practice. HP or soft nose is for protection if you don't go all the way with the new frangible's.
I was a medic and have witnessed many gun injuries. I'm telling you I shot a phone pole with a .32, 15 feet away and every shot bounced off the pole. Not one penetration. I sold the gun. It's not even a purse gun for a woman. The .380 is only slightly better.
You lose all credibility when you say a .32 is as good as a 9mm. I'm not in love with a 9mm, but it is way better than a .32. These are gang banger guns that burn up the ghetto's. They shoot each other every weekend and are back in school Monday. I would rather have a .22 LR than a .32. At least you get the penetration.( and more shots)
No, I don't want to be shot with anything, but I'm just talking about raw power. Shooting someone with a .45 in the kneecap wouldn't be as good as shooting someone with a .380 in the head, that is true. But shooting someone with a .380 in the knee probably wouldn't even keep them from slapping the sh#t out of you before you got off another shot. In Texas, you have some "big ole boys" that take alot of killin. My daughter is a Sheriff Deputy and has seen many perps shot multiple times with small bullets and lived. 9 hits with a 9mm and it still takes 2 officers to take a guy down killing his wife while on meth, will make you pay attention to the size gun you carry. When I pull a gun, I plan on winning. It's not a game. I don't want a pencil hole, I want meat and guts flying. You may not always be able to make a head shot.
Now that we have settled the small caliber against the large caliber pistol question, we can move on to the tried and true .308 against the .223 for the military question. You get one guess what I pick. My M1A Springfield is the only gun I will never sell. This same ground has been covered about 150 times in the last few years. Same people, same comments. All the points have been made multiple times. I could have started the thread off with a bunch of numbers of foot pounds of muzzle energy and retained energy down range and such, but it usually get a reactions when you just say small caliber's pistols suck. A good knife will do more damage.
Yes, you are a troll. Your stated purpose in this thread was to stir up controversy. And then you get upset when called out on it - that is, defacto, the actions of a troll, pure and simple.
By the way, trolls usually refer to some self-referential "expertise", such as the number of firearms they own, or how long they've been shooting - you know, things that cannot be verified. Notice I post to actual news links, or 3rd party photographed tests? Not some unverifiable facts that would fit in with the way the UEA conducts climate research...
Your errors in post 52 show your lack of experience or knowledge. Not to mention your insane claim that a 22 LR will out-penetrate a 32 ACP round. The facts show you to be completely wrong.
As far as "no one carries an FMJ for self defense" then you really are ignorant. For smaller calibers you do NOT carry hollow points because you do not have the penetration often required. There is no disputing a 32 ACP FMJ will penetrate more than the FBI requirements. I posted the links showing as much earlier in this thread and in this very post, where you can see photos of gelatin tests. It will perforate a person, and thus can make a CNS strike like other, more powerful calibers.
As for the rest of your post, please re-read what I posted and you'll realize your own straw men simply fail to rise to the occasion.
Bye, troll!