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No wonder we have so few veterans among conservative leaders, an awful lot of conservatives are just what the left says they are, they want to pass the buck from themselves and their own sons to anyone else, including the women that are already required to make up the shortfall of males.

We have so few veterans among "conservative" leaders because we have so few conservatives among "conservative" leaders. That is a huge part of the reason that the GOP is under such attack from the right as we speak. If more high-profile Republicans were veterans, we would probably be a lot better off (McCain proves that it isn't an absolute rule).

However, the time to serve your country in the military is when your country is best served by the military. Right now, I think the military will be used merely as a political tool by Obama. He doesn't give one bit of a damn if every soldier we have is slaughtered in Afghanistan or anywhere else. He probably hates them along with the rest of real America. How, in good conscience, could I, you, or anyone else, tell some young man to enlist under those conditions? Hell, we may need those same young men to stay here and help with the revolution soon - they'll get their best chance to serve their country fighting at home. At best, if Obama gets only one term, a young man need only put off his service by 3 years (or, he could just go ROTC now and graduate in 4). If Obama gets a second term, well then, either the revolution will be on its way, or the US won't be worth defending anyway.

Jumping around and screaming about how the boys must join up NOW or else they'll never do it is asinine, especially with questionable people in complete power as they are now. A guy can sign the papers as easily when he's 22 as when he's 18.

How, in good conscience, could I, you, or anyone else, tell some young man to enlist under those conditions?

I sure can and I do, and I always have, my earlier posts cover that clearly.

When young men put off their military service they are rarely in a position years later to want to quit their jobs leave their family and mortgage and head for 3 or 4 years of service, it isn't exactly like making up a college degree on line or at night classes.

Something that cannot be explained or easily reversed is when so called conservatives try to keep their sons from serving.

Let's fight to keep the recruiters off campus, HEY HEY HO HO baby killers have to go.