[Buck W.]

Bruce Lee?

No, gorilla man, Adam and Eve are NOT real people, despite the pictures in your coloring book. Jesus is, though. Real Christians understand that. That’s why evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible.

And why your weak faith is the source of entertainment for us.

You’re wrong about the definition of allegory, too. Does everything have to be shoehorned into a box to keep your faith afloat?

[Enosh]

"Adam and Eve are NOT real people, .... Jesus is, though."

Curious, at which point in the genealogy do "real" people first appear? Seth? Enosh? Enoch? Noah? Peleg? Abraham? Was Moses "real?"

[ejonesie22]

...And why your weak faith is the source of entertainment for us.

300.14 Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder)

Diagnostic criteria for 300.14 Dissociative Identity Disorder

A. The presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states (each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self).

B. At least two of these identities or personality states recurrently take control of the person's behavior.

C. Inability to recall important personal information that is too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness.

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., blackouts or chaotic behavior during Alcohol Intoxication) or a general medical condition (e.g., complex partial seizures). Note: In children, the symptoms are not attributable to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play.

[metmom]

Hmmm, seems Jesus considered creation a real event and the first man and woman to be created by God.

Mark 10: 2-9 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"

"What did Moses command you?" he replied.

They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied. "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.' 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

Perhaps you would care to explain how Jesus considered the first man and first woman to be real people, and the creation account he referred to.

Here you go everybody while we watch buck spin, twist, and gyrate in the wind trying to explain away what Jesus meant about the first man and woman and the beginning of creation. (Because, of course, in buck's theology, Jesus was wrong, too.)

[Godzilla]

No, gorilla man, Adam and Eve are NOT real people, despite the pictures in your coloring book. Jesus is, though. Real Christians understand that.

So Jesus (whom you say is real), makes a definitive reference that there were two real persons who are the source of the human race. Yet you claim they are not real. Hmmmmm, who to believe, Jesus - God the Son, or Bucky son of ??????????. Yep, REAL Christians understand that bucky.

You’re wrong about the definition of allegory, too. Does everything have to be shoehorned into a box to keep your faith afloat?

Then perhaps you should let us know how Bucky's New International Dictionary defines "allegory", since Mr. Silverback's all line up with these 'lesser' dictionaries than yours.

BTW, on what do you base you claim of being a Christian again? Still waiting.

[Mr. Silverback]

Bruce Lee?

Yes, because you knock over strawmen with such impressive martial skill. Like the strawman that people who don't see Genessis as allegory don't believe there's any allegory in the Bible. You knocked that one down real good. Hai-ya!

No, gorilla man, Adam and Eve are NOT real people, despite the pictures in your coloring book. Jesus is, though. Real Christians understand that.

Ah. So, we are back to the following question, which I've rephrased slightly:

If Adam and Eve are not real people, one of the following must be true:

1. Genesis is an allegory, and Luke is a history, but not one inspired by the always-truthful Holy Spirit. As such, pretty much everything in it would be in doubt.

2. Both of them are fairy stories for the Bronze Age set.

Note that "the Holy Spirit inspired Luke to include a non-fact in a section clearly intended to be factual" is not on the list, nor should it be. I'm sure a "real Christian" like you would never accuse the Holy Spirit of sending out false information.

Which one is it? Number 1 or number 2? If you know the truth, help me learn.