Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish
That was a short post but man what a post, impressive.
For me the realization that I could do nothing without Christ, that HE paid my sin IN FULL and that even baptism and “sacrament” wouldn’t take away my sin, didn’t disgust me, it made His free gift of Grace all that more amazing.
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It is the Lord’s Atonement for all the sins ever happen in the world from the beganning until the end by those gone before and present and those yet to be born it is a vicarious gift from the Saviors.
A gift which each individual has to accept in order to receive the gift!
you could give me a gift but if I don’t accept/receive it than I don’t have the gift!
When Jesus was baptized he showed the way for all to follow even the perfect one who did not need to be baptized humble himself to teach all of his children the way.
Before the Lord was Crucified He also taught his diciples the need and meaning of sacarment.
Acts 22
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
I'm much less ambitious. If we don't save the country from these assclowns in DC we're going to be saying Mass in whatever passes for catacombs in the US.
As the pro-life trend among the populace continues Roe will slowly be whittled down. I believe it is inevitable—unless we become a more socialist state which will effectively isolate government action from non-violent public opinion. And as long as there is food and football (or bread and circuses) there will be no violent expression of public opinion.
I'm assuming what you meant by souls referred to abortions and not proselytizing. If it's the latter it's really beyond my ambition.
W/r/t the "mormon wars" etc. I hear you, and you sound like you know what I'm asking. But you know what they say about all others bringing data.
Munk
I’m assuming what you meant by souls referred to abortions and not proselytizing.
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I meant proselytizing, although preventing abortions is important as well.
You miss the point. It's only your opinions that I refuse to consider seriously.
As for hostile I'm a Republican in Massachusetts. You don't know from hostile.
the answer is that the Mormon stuff largely dried up in early 2008 and almost totally died after the Palin selection.
It seems that once Romney was defeated in the primaries that the great majority of Mormons quit posting and lost interest in freerepublic, if it is considered kosher, then I can link to prolific long term posters here that have not posted since early 2008, in other words America’s politics don’t interest them, Mormon politics do.
I answered the troll by posting the above and as I guessed, he is not interested in answers, he trolls.
however the comparison to our “righteousness” (i.e. self important works of righteousness for our own glory - like becoming a god) can apply to either sex.
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You love to take things out of context or just move it a little so it dose not interfer with your report on climate change!:)
What part of doing the will of the Lord did you not understand that includes being view as righteous in the eyes of the Lord.
One can not receive a good reward from the Lord if they are unworthy.
Rev 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
So in the end all will be rewarded according to what ever they sowed!
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i.e. self important works of righteousness for our own glory - like becoming a god
just curious why are so many of you obessed with painting the LDS in this light self important works of righteousness for our own glory “like becoming a god?”
I know of no LDS who gets on the internet and said hey we Mormons can become gods?
I do like many LDS like to talk of the Lord and share about the restoration and about the Plan of Salvation.
I know the knowledge of this has also been a part of the restoration and was received as wow! really! that is neat, it is nice to understand some mysteries about ourselves as mankind etc.
and Romans 8 also expalins it a little.
Romans 8 tells us the natural man is an enemy to God and contrary too all the Lord desires of us.
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
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14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
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23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
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33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Yes; that is what got Josephj Smith killed: going his own way.
(And HAVING his way with OTHER MEN'S WIVES may have had a SMALL thing to do with it.)
WE?
'You' have accused folks in this thread of being harsh and 'misguided' in their approach to EVANGELISM, but have failed to speak DIRECTLY to them.
WHY?
"Go and sin no more. stands as an example of dealing with folks who don'r seem to GET what is being alluded to.
Why not try it?
Now it's a BIT?
Speaking of veiws (Hey!! is this thing ON?), do you have (since you claim to once have been a PRESBYTERIAN) any idea as to just WHAT Joseph Smith 'learned' to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism?
No; she is not. SHE DOES NOT KNOW!
BTW; there is no other MORMON who seems to be able to answer it either!
Somebody set us up the bomb
There is yet ANOTHER vague reference to someone: WHY?
Go for it!
There are actual MORMONs in this thread!
NOW iks your chance to try your methods out to see how they work!
You've not addressed MORMON theology yet; so have at it!
Did ‘thoughts’ evaporate in #’s 491 & 492???
Are YOU going to leave them unnamed; too?
You ain’t what you is quacked up to be...
...being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world...
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