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To: bobby cep
My wife currently manages a retail store. I'm retired. There is no way I would ever get between her and her boss. No way I'd ever get between her and her employees. It just ain't gonna happen. Having been a manager and knowing what's entailed in the job, I expect her to carry her own weight. That's what she's paid the big bucks for (yeah, right, on the big bucks...).

Ah, but then that’s the beauty of being a skilled professional, when they need YOU more than you need THEM...

That's an end-justifies-the-means argument and it's absolutely wrong. You were wrong and bone-headed for getting between the two. You and your 'deterrence' stance makes you sound pretty young, inexperienced and unprofessional. Maybe you're not, but that's the way you come across. A word of advice; the next time something like this happens in her workplace, let her handle it. First, it shows respect for her person, her ability and her professionalism. Second, it prevents one bad scene from escalating into something way beyond the need. Third, someday, somewhere, you'll step in and the situation will turn on you - and your wife - in ways you never want to incur. Then, who's fault will it be?

There's more to life than confronting every real or imagined slight that occurs. Realizing that is part of the process of becoming a mature, respected member of society.

44 posted on 11/21/2009 1:04:29 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: bcsco

“Realizing that is part of the process of becoming a mature, respected member of society.”

Wow, this is insufferable.

I personally side with him wrt to how someone would treat my wife. You want to chew her out, I’ll keep her at home. I love the lady, and I respect her time and talents tremendously. Have you seen what it does to people when they come home, when they work for someone who is a terrible boss? Sucks all the life out of them.

Normally I would agree with you and stay out of it, but some of the doctors and bosses... Honestly. If managers complain when times are good that they can’t hire good staff, they might want to look at their management techniques when times are bad.

Employees have long memories. You stick with them in the tough times and try to make it work, and they will go to bat for you. Dump them on the side of the road, they will remember that too.


48 posted on 11/21/2009 1:11:49 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: bcsco

I’ll keep this private as to not bore the others:

<< My wife currently manages a retail store. I’m retired. There is no way I would ever get between her and her boss. >>

So you’re saying that if her boss sticks a finger in her chest and verbally assaults her in front of her coworkers, you would do NOTHING? How about if the guy who did that to her was a Muslim? Does that change anything?

No way I’d ever get between her and her employees. It just ain’t gonna happen. Having been a manager and knowing what’s entailed in the job, I expect her to carry her own weight. That’s what she’s paid the big bucks for (yeah, right, on the big bucks...).

<< That’s an end-justifies-the-means argument and it’s absolutely wrong. >>

I don’t agree. I think of it as more of a case of “you can argue method, but not results.” My methods may seem extreme to you, just as some people think that bombing Iraq and/or Afghanistan is an extreme position. Seems the same to me, except instead of a Muslim knocking down buildings, this one was trying to knock down my wife.

<< You were wrong and bone-headed for getting between the two. You and your ‘deterrence’ stance makes you sound pretty young, inexperienced and unprofessional. >>

I’m 58, I have a boatload of letters after my name, and I don’t care if the a-hole in question thinks of me as “unprofessional.” He got my message, and according to my wife, he’s been nice to her — and the other girls on her floor — ever since. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

<< Maybe you’re not, but that’s the way you come across. A word of advice; the next time something like this happens in her workplace, let her handle it. >>

“Um, honey...this guy just punched you in the face and tried to rape you, but I’m staying out of it. YOU handle it.”

Nah.

<< There’s more to life than confronting every real or imagined slight that occurs. Realizing that is part of the process of becoming a mature, respected member of society. >>

I understand what you’re saying, but if ignorance had wings, that paragraph would be an airport. Thanks for your input and be well.


56 posted on 11/22/2009 5:16:35 AM PST by bobby cep (Palin In 2012!)
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