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700-pound black bear bedevils Nev. town [shot with a .44 magnum bullet bounced off its skull]
upi ^ | Nov. 18, 2009

Posted on 11/18/2009 4:26:00 PM PST by JoeProBono

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To: technically right
"I prefer a .45-70 with the Garrett 540 grain Hammerhead load."

That would be one of the best for the job with fair placement. ;-) Wide flat-nosed lead bullets from large revolvers can also work well for defense against dangerous animals (especially for knowledgeable handloaders). You might also find the following to be interesting.

Shooting Holes in Wounding Theories: The Mechanics of Terminal Ballistics


41 posted on 11/18/2009 10:20:12 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: dools007

Don’t know what she is doing, but even dead the bear seems to be smiling.......


42 posted on 11/19/2009 12:58:11 AM PST by goat granny
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To: dools007

Nail trim and lanolin on the feet will fix that gal up in no time.......


43 posted on 11/19/2009 12:59:43 AM PST by goat granny
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To: JoeProBono
Thanks, looks like the one. But I have the 5" barrel.
44 posted on 11/19/2009 3:21:30 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: JoeProBono; goat granny

granny...thanks for the early morning laugh.

Joe,.....Impressive picture, but it doesn’t look right. What’s holding the bear up. I don’t see any ropes or cables. Not questioning you, but it just doesn’t seem to be ‘hanging right’. Severe rigormortis?


45 posted on 11/19/2009 3:40:41 AM PST by panaxanax (It's time to start plucking the chickens and boiling the tar.)
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To: krogers58
We are dealing with a wives tale here I'm afraid.

Bullets do NOT bounce or glance off bears skulls. It has to do with the angle of the shot. The front of a bear’s skull is extremely tapered and flat. There is also a massive portion of the top of a bears head that is just hide, flesh and fat, with a large and very narrow ridge of bone that protrudes upward, giving the impression that the head is much higher and larger than it actually is.

The brain and stem is actually very low, in line with the eyes and nose in a front on position. Given the proper aim and angle, even a 22 LR is capable of penetrating a Bear's skull. In fact the World record Bruin (Sq. 13 ft., est. 1200 pounds) was killed by an Athabaskan Indian woman near Whitehorse on the newly built Alcan Highway in the late ‘40’s. She killed it with a Mossberg single shot 22 Long. She was protecting her grandkids.

I guided many Brown Bear hunts in Alaska for over a decade and have seen countless carcasses. I also participated in several rogue bear hunts, one where it had killed and eaten a camper out of King Salmon AK. Believe me, the head is one of the worst targets to shoot for. It takes a very heavy caliber, high velocity round from 338 Win Mag. on up. I would prefer the 375 H&H myself and have several for just that purpose.

Shotguns with slugs are one of the worst choices for bear. They just do not have the crushing energy required to break down the heavy bone structure and layers of sinew and muscle that resemble a modern flak jacket. Actual testing has confirmed that shotguns should not be relied on for bear protection. Even though many people believe that they are the ultimate and superior to all others. Believe me, they are not even close when it comes to stopping a charging 1,000 pound Alaska Brown Bear. Which is why I choose the 375 H&H. A 350 grain bonded round nose Barnes bullet, puts up over 5800 foot pounds of energy at 30 yards, moving along at 2500 fps. A shot gun with slugs at the same yards, puts up less than 1500 and the lack of a jacket, causes it to flatten out in impact and not penetrate into the vitals, or inflict enough hydrostatic shock to kill the animal.

46 posted on 11/19/2009 3:58:12 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: goat granny
LOL!


47 posted on 11/19/2009 4:52:27 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: technically right

that would make a decent wound channel for sure..air rushing in and blood rushing out..thats what they need.

Next time that bear comes back, nail him with a 12 ga. rifled slug..preferrably 2-3 of them.

They will have to drag boo boo out of there with a wrecker, but he’ll be deader than disco.


48 posted on 11/19/2009 1:59:03 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Harry rarely comes to Nevada and even less to the North.
49 posted on 11/19/2009 2:01:38 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: JoeProBono
Carl from NDOW is one of the best bear managers in the country. Other States send their folks to learn from him. This bear is pushing even his patience. In a way kind of funny except for the damage.
50 posted on 11/19/2009 2:31:55 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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