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I am sure there are going to be some lulus—

So, fire away!

1 posted on 10/30/2009 6:10:41 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Bender2

FYI


2 posted on 10/30/2009 6:12:38 PM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

I hate the NEA too. However, that other group — how rude! It is as if — gasp, they didn’t really want to represent you. Hmmm. Aren’t NEA members able to make sure their dues/ contributions do not go to the Dems? I thot I saw this go through the courts a while ago.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 6:14:05 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: ontap
So, the NEA is trolling to pick up a member. Big surprise. They must have a person who's job it is to identify prospects like you. Too bad about the ATPE, they sound like schmucks to me. But if you want to make a deal with the devil he will be happy to oblige.
4 posted on 10/30/2009 6:15:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: ontap

did the student face assault charges?


6 posted on 10/30/2009 6:17:42 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: ontap

when are people going to wise up...unions are about money and power ....thats all


8 posted on 10/30/2009 6:18:26 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ontap

Let me get this straight.....the ATPE will not help members if they are able to continue paying dues after being injured and off the job for an extended period of time?


9 posted on 10/30/2009 6:18:27 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: ontap
This sounds like more of a business issue to me. I wouldn't take it personally. Probably what happened is that a number of people joined ATPE in the past because they needed help with something right now, and without having paid dues for any length of time, these people used up a lot of personnel resources at ATPE. Some of them may have quit ATPE after getting the help they needed with some work issues. That would be like buying health insurance after becoming ill, then canceling the policy after receiving treatment and recovering.

Most likely, that's why you got the cold shoulder from them. I would just remain an ATPE member if it's not too expensive and maybe you'll need their help another day.

10 posted on 10/30/2009 6:18:35 PM PDT by your local physicist (If the Canadians and Brazilians can drill for oil off their Atlantic coast, why can't we?)
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To: ontap

My wife is an ATPE member and she just described them to me as basically a service organization you can buy insurance against lawsuits but that’s about it. Mostly, ATPE holds teacher training summits, they aren’t in the business of representing or protecting teachers. The insurance you can buy is just reselling a standard program.

Its kind of like the NRA more than a union. They give you some benefits, they do resell some insurance, but they aren’t in the business of representing you.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 6:22:15 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ontap

Are you saying that you paid your dues late (because you were injured), so they won’t help you?


17 posted on 10/30/2009 6:26:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: ontap

ASSAULT LEAVE

Any employee of a school district who is physically assaulted while performing his or her
regular duties is entitled to up to two years paid leave to recuperate from all physical injuries
sustained as a result of the assault.
Days of leave taken for assault leave may not be deducted
from the employee’s accrued personal leave.
However, the employee has the responsibility to request
assault leave. If the request is not made by the employee, it
is unlikely that the district will voluntarily place the employee
on assault leave. The district has the right to investigate the assault
to determine if assault leave is appropriate.
A person is “physically assaulted” if the person causing the
injury could be prosecuted for assault, meaning the
conduct of the person was done intentionally, knowingly
or recklessly. It is still considered an assault even
if the person causing the injury could not be prosecuted
because of age or mental incapacity.

http://www.tsta.org/news/current/09summerAdvocate-web.pdf


22 posted on 10/30/2009 6:31:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: ontap

No bashing from me but I wouldn’t trust the sweetness and light of the NEA for anything. I suspect you know this anyway. Its just too bad that your organization treated you the way they did because that behavior drives people to unions.

Its not the same teachers union but I hope you and others will take a look at this site and pay attention to the video.

http://aftexposed.com/


25 posted on 10/30/2009 6:34:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: ontap

I’m sorry for what you’ve been through, and I’m sorry the Professional Educators treated you poorly.

I think you already know this, but I’ll mention it anyway: Just because someone gives you a piece of valuable information when you need it, doesn’t necessarily make them your friend. And most likely they’ll expect something in return.


28 posted on 10/30/2009 6:39:32 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (A Penny Saved, is a Penny TAXED)
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To: ontap

Why are you surprised? The NEA isn’t evil because it helps teachers...it’s evil because they tend to screw over everyone else! Glad they were able to help you, though.


31 posted on 10/30/2009 6:44:56 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: ontap

Any one interested can go here and see what ATPE professes to be.http://www.atpe.org/Protection/


35 posted on 10/30/2009 7:03:27 PM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

There are good things about unions. They don’t allow being by passed over for younger workers if you have senority, they will not allow being fired for stupid reasons and in cases like this would go to the mat for you. :)


36 posted on 10/30/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: ontap

I’m also in Texas and I’m very interested in hearing more about this incident.

Can you please refer me to a news source in the state that reported on your assault? If your injuries required surgery, I’m sure it was in the news.......


37 posted on 10/30/2009 7:34:08 PM PDT by Hardshell
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