1 posted on
10/26/2009 11:01:33 PM PDT by
Steelfish
To: Steelfish
it does look a bit odd. don’t know about grief but they seem to be aware that something is happening to one of their own.
2 posted on
10/26/2009 11:09:38 PM PDT by
uncitizen
(I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
To: Steelfish
Let’s see, stages of grief:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
Can chimps “feel” those things?
To: Steelfish
Ugh. I tried to read Next Of Kin, but it was sooo sad that it nearly broke my heart.
Chimps did amazing things with sign language.
7 posted on
10/26/2009 11:20:24 PM PDT by
MarMema
(chains we can believe in)
To: pandoraou812
Until recently, describing scenes like this in terms of human emotions such as 'grief' would have been dismissed by scientists as naive anthropomorphising.Those "scientists" need to get out and actually meet an animal sometime. The author might consider dropping the arrogance of assigning emotions exclusively to humans too. Neither POV is anywhere near the universe of reality.
10 posted on
10/26/2009 11:24:31 PM PDT by
TigersEye
(Democracy sucks!)
To: Steelfish
15 posted on
10/26/2009 11:43:33 PM PDT by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet)
To: Steelfish
Weep if you must, but make an end of sorrow.
He lives again.
Yes, he has found peace in heaven.
He was a model for us all, a gorilla to remember...
Hunter, warrior, defender of the faith.
Cherished husband, beloved father, generous master, yes.
He was a font of simian kindness.
The dear departed once said to me
"I never met an ape I didn't like."
Look! It's a man!
In heaven's name! Get rid of that creature!
Mama! Mama!
24 posted on
10/27/2009 12:38:56 AM PDT by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(IN A SMALL TENT WE STAND CLOSER! ****** IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Steelfish
Probably thought it was dinner time. They do eat their own.
27 posted on
10/27/2009 1:59:55 AM PDT by
chuckles
To: Steelfish
So what do they feel when they kill and cannibalize other chimps?
31 posted on
10/27/2009 8:51:30 AM PDT by
gilor
(Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
To: Steelfish
How much “grief” does a chimp feel when it’s ripping your hands, nuts and face off?
To: Steelfish
I think animals grieve when one of their companions die. The grief may not last a long time but I have had a dog that sat a howled for several months when her companion dog died.
We had 2 Rhodesian Ridgebacks and even though we had no fence the dogs never left the yard. Our son was killed in a car wreck and after that the dogs changed. They might not have missed him because they were my dogs but they knew something was wrong with me. They became very protective of me and the house and the yard.
Their territory increased to include half of the neighbors yard and into the middle of the street. I finally came out of my stupor to realize something was going on with them when the mailman refused to deliver our mail because the dogs would not let him get near the mailbox.
The end of the story was that we got a fence.
50 posted on
10/27/2009 4:11:23 PM PDT by
Ditter
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