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End of the world as Hollywood knows it
CNet News ^ | 20 October 2009 | Greg Sandoval

Posted on 10/21/2009 10:44:28 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: Dem Guard

bttt


61 posted on 10/21/2009 3:04:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bella1
You're backpedaling. You pulled a quote from sig226 that was specifically about copyright theft. Yet you say your comment has nothing to do with copyright theft. If that's the case, you might look up the definition of "non sequitur."


“no matter how much you might hate the studios and some of the fools they employ, the real issue here is intellectual property rights. if it’s okay to steal copyrights, why would it not be okay to steal patents?”

Hollywood is neither intellectual or right. Good riddance.



62 posted on 10/21/2009 3:20:44 PM PDT by Since 2009-07-21
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To: Since 2009-07-21

...You pulled a quote from sig226 that was specifically about copyright theft...

With “pulled” being the operative word.


63 posted on 10/21/2009 4:29:31 PM PDT by bella1 (Remember; it took four years of Carter to give us eight years of Reagan.)
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To: wtc911

How is taking money earned by one person to give it to another any different than theft of intellectual property?

They are all for sharing until it’s their stuff.


64 posted on 10/21/2009 4:31:05 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: ShadowAce
even though I am connected to this industry I could not be happier. The only sad part is the revenue and job loss by everyday working people that make their money behind the scenes that are not paid the big dollars the A list and green lighters get paid. Otherwise I believe it can't happen soon enough.

I am sick and tired of all the crap these yahoos are putting out and B(ush) and P(alin) D(erangement) S(yndrome) is all over their new films. Screw 'em all. Let's get back to creating real fiction and real art that touches the people of the United States of America and that inspires those in the foreign market to shoot for higher ideals and artistic creation as well.

Now we just need to stop the fascists from controlling the internet from the White House and halls of the house and senate.

65 posted on 10/21/2009 5:23:03 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: bella1

when somebody steals your stuff, your own dismissal of right and wrong will be particularly painful for you.


66 posted on 10/21/2009 7:23:03 PM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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To: Let's Roll

i think this is going to turn into a classic case of free market economics. over-compensation is only one way to look at it. the truth is that the studio gets $100,000,000 from a theatrical release because 10,000,000 people paid ten bucks to see the thing. what they make from each individual ticket sale is very little, and they have to account for the various and expensive flops they produce every year. They still sell hundreds of millions of tickets, and they make their profit. like any other business, they’ll stop when they stop making a profit. and here’s the real rub. many of the films that produce the profit are the ones with the hundred million dollar budgets.

those make money because we pay to go see them. a family of four can easily spend $100 to see a feature film, and they won’t go unless they believe they’re going to get $100 worth of entertainment. of course, the studio pays a small fortune for the effects and production costs for this film, and they want it to succeed. so they may hire actors whose reputations will put asses in seats. they are trying to make a profit.

the model is collapsing now because of the distribution system. they can’t control the paying audience. they’ll stop spending $100,000,000 to make a film when there’s no way for them to get it back.

i think that they will be forced to return to the practices of the radio age. radio shows were mass audience productions, but they had a limited lifetime and everyone knew it. prior to television, feature films were a one shot deal. after a film’s first run, there was no way to make more more money from it. a blockbuster was a very risky proposition. there were no marketing tie ins, no reese’s pieces to pay into the investment. no secondary markets existed to earn revenue from broadcast and recorded media sales.

at the same time, the theatrical experience was much more than it is today. a night at the movies included a newsreel, cartoon, short subject, and then the feature presentation. all of this material was produced on the assumption that after its initial run, it was worthless. yet they still made money, vast fortunes in some cases.

i think we will see a return to something like this. they’ll bring back inexpensive dramas, along with additional features and lower priced tickets to convince the audience to keep going to the movies. low budget independent productions may become a force if someone can figure out a way to control the internet audience. how that could happen is beyond me.

even if a studio spent $1,000,000 on a production (low budget, these days) it needs a way to ensure that it will collect on its investment before bootleg versions of it are all over the web. i’m sure there is a way to do this, i just don’t know what it is.


67 posted on 10/21/2009 7:58:05 PM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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To: ShadowAce
Hmm...interesting.
I had to pause in mid-article to go to my favorite torrent site and DL the most recent South park.
Hmmm...surfthechannel.com...sounds interesting.

Oh...and Hollywood...Bugger Off!
68 posted on 10/21/2009 10:11:24 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: netmilsmom

NetMilsMom ...there it is.


69 posted on 10/21/2009 10:16:02 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Tainan

You are the first person to ever capitalize my FReepername that way.

Spot on!


70 posted on 10/22/2009 5:20:22 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: sig226

As you say, distribution is key.

Good analysis - thanks for doing that.


71 posted on 10/22/2009 7:44:20 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Dem Guard

“I’m always miffed how these people think they are immune
from all of the same things that are befalling the great
unwashed. I hate to ask, but are they really that stupid
after-all”

Uh yeah. THey get away with so much that they are surprised to be called into account for their actions. Look at how they support Polanski.


72 posted on 10/30/2009 12:37:34 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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