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Teen details sexual relationship with former seminary teacher
KSL.com ^ | Oct. 20, 2009 | Sam Penrod

Posted on 10/21/2009 9:42:33 AM PDT by Colofornian

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1 posted on 10/21/2009 9:42:33 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

What, the Fork?


2 posted on 10/21/2009 9:46:47 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Colofornian

The dude is wrong, but I don’t feel too sorry for the girl. The article makes it sound like she went into the relationship eyes wide open.


3 posted on 10/21/2009 9:47:31 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Colofornian

As the sexes of the parties have been reversed, there will be no requests made for pictures by which to judge the guilt or innocence of the accused teacher.

As the parties are not of the same sex nor in public school, the teacher will not be receiving a gold medal, a promotion, and a raise from his employer for promoting tolerance and diversity.


4 posted on 10/21/2009 9:50:48 AM PDT by Loyalist (A tagline so irenic it deserves a Nobel Peace Prize of its own!)
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Hey Pratt, your problem is that you couldn't keep it zipped until the girl was 18. Then you could have just married her and no one would have blinked an eye.

This disgusts me...my daughter was sexually harassed by a male principal at a public school, and they zero-toleranced her out and used the system to abuse me and my family. We won't see justice until Judgment Day.

5 posted on 10/21/2009 9:51:29 AM PDT by pray4liberty
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Well, It's easy to understand how Brother Pratt got himself into this mess ... pretty girl, protracted personal and private contact, and so on.

That's where "being an adult" comes into the picture. Grown-ups are supposed to be able to recoggnize, think through, and avoid these situations in a way that a young girl is not able to do.

Brother Pratt failed to do that, and stole something from her in the process.

6 posted on 10/21/2009 9:53:26 AM PDT by r9etb
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Unfortunately this happens all to frequently in all sorts of schools.
7 posted on 10/21/2009 9:53:36 AM PDT by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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The dude is wrong, but I don’t feel too sorry for the girl. The article makes it sound like she went into the relationship eyes wide open.

It sounds like she was willing; however, the adult in the scenario is ultimately responsible to ensure appropriate behavior.

His actions sound practiced and calculated. I wonder if she's just the most recent in a long line of "conquests."

8 posted on 10/21/2009 9:55:29 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: DonaldC
The dude is wrong, but I don’t feel too sorry for the girl. The article makes it sound like she went into the relationship eyes wide open.

The girl was 16 years old, probably with a head full of romantic thoughts. Like most teens, she probably didn't have any real sense of the consequences. That's what differentiates between "minors" and "adults." A starry-eyed teen can be talked into all sorts of stupid behavior.

It was Brother Pratt's responsibility to avoid this situation.

9 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:00 AM PDT by r9etb
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Michael Pratt. I wonder if he is related to Parley P.Pratt who was killed for stealing a wife of another man to take part in polygamy. If he is related, then he is kin to a certain Presidential hopeful too. ;)


10 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:14 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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Definitely not guilty.


11 posted on 10/21/2009 9:57:58 AM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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Except that she was a minor. If she was underage, you can’t exactly use the “consent” alibi.


12 posted on 10/21/2009 9:59:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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The dude is wrong, but I don’t feel too sorry for the girl. The article makes it sound like she went into the relationship eyes wide open.

IMHO, depends on the age of the girl, I had a hard time pulling that out of the article.

15 or 16, throw the book at him. 17.......I'm not entirely sure. Civil consequences certainly - fire his butt, what he did was completely unethical!. But, Criminal Charges? The law is the law, but declining to prosecute might be potentially be in order.

Some time ago, during all of the Catholic priest scandals, I read an op-ed (wish I could remember by who). The guy was incensed that 17-year-old "boys" had been "taken advantage of" "against their will". His point was that he celebrated his 17th birthday as a Marine in a landing craft off Okinawa (apparently, he stretched the truth a bit with his recruiter....) and if anyone had tried to "take advantage of him against his will" they'd have been picking up their teeth off the floor.

His views roughly mirrored mine, in that the priests abused their position of power with the older boys, but indeed, it took two to tango.

I know that the law says "18", but at some point common sense needs to dictate actions. From this single article, I agree with you that it sounds like the girl knew exactly what she was doing.

13 posted on 10/21/2009 10:03:38 AM PDT by wbill
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Yeah but the judge is guilty as hell.


14 posted on 10/21/2009 10:04:03 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Colofornian

It’s a good thing she went to police. And thus she went “public”. If she had reported it to a school official chances are she would have been advised to seek counseling.

And, I believe the girl is old enough to marry in some states. But that does not excuse this guy’s behavior.


15 posted on 10/21/2009 10:17:28 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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To: r9etb

quite correct, and an argument we use when we insist that teenagers should need consent of parents for abortion.

Principals and teachers have to know — NO RELATIONSHIPS WITH STUDENTS.


16 posted on 10/21/2009 10:30:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DallasDeb
Read the lyrics to his song, then tell us if he's still "not guilty."

You are the sunlight, I am the moon
Joined by the gods of fortune
Spin the wheel see what we'll be

You are the one who sees me
The one who believes in all I can be
Not just for now, but for eternity

And all the things I believe are here right now
And if you'll open up your heart, he'll show you how

We both know that I just won't ever deserve the girl I'm with
Sometimes it makes me sick of who I can be

You are the sunlight, I am the moon
Joined by the gods of fortune
Spin the wheel see what we'll be

He should get 10 extra years, just for that....

17 posted on 10/21/2009 10:39:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

If only LDS seminary principals were allowed to marry, this never would have happened.


18 posted on 10/21/2009 11:20:04 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: I Buried My Guns
If only LDS seminary principals were allowed to marry, this never would have happened.

What ... married men don't write awful lyrics? OK, I admit that I don't write lyrics, awful or otherwise. But I thought that was just me....

Alternative Response:

If only LDS seminary principals were allowed to marry, and marry, and keep marrying until they were too tired to do anything at all, this never would have happened

19 posted on 10/21/2009 11:23:54 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Yours is funnier.

I have posted the (almost) exact same response 3 times now today in different threads, with not a lot of vitriol coming back to me. I guess only the Catholics get it.

20 posted on 10/21/2009 11:36:43 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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