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To: circumbendibus

OK...here is what The Obama File says about this doc:

(It can be viewed at ‘theObamaFile.com’)

This “Certificate of Live Birth,” has been circulating on the net in the last couple hours. It shows Barack Obama as being born in “Kenya, Africa.” Attorney Mario Apuzzo and Charles Kerchner both believe it is a forgery and a fraud —probably created by Obots to get our side scurrying around.

The reason they think it is a fraud is because the Hawaiian statute cited in the lower right corner as the version with the “.8” amendment on the end, i.e., 338.17.8 did not exist in 1961. It was added in 1982.

That jumped out at them right away. 338.17.8 did not apply to Obama in 1961 because it did not exist in the law books yet. But the registration of out of state children was permitted in 1961 under older laws such as the one in 1911 and another in 1955.

Since this document cites 338.17.8 it cannot be the initial or original birth registration document.

The form is also a different form than the control copy — see here.


39 posted on 10/20/2009 7:10:35 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: rocco55
Obamafile says this BC doesn't look like the “control copy” but they link to a 1978 document, so that is not comparable.

On that 1978 document the form field corresponding to the 1961 document field containing “378-18.8” has been used to make a typed entry six months after the birth was recorded proving that this field is used by officials to type in updating information long after the birth.

This raises the possibility that “378-18.8” may have been typed onto the 1961 document long after the birth, even years after the birth to note reclassification of the document under updated statutes. A new 378-18.8 statute might have required a review and reclassification that would have been typed onto the document on review.

Note how the line of type with “378-18.8” doesn't align with the typing at the beginning the field indicating that the document was reinserted into a typewriter before the statute was typed indicating a different time frame for that typing, and “per grandmother” doesn't align either indicating a third insertion and a possible third time frame for that comment.

At a minimum, an image of this document was obtained after passage of 378-18.8, but who knows what alterations could have been made based on further testimony to amend this document to reflect a Honolulu birth. (Wild aside: maybe Stanley Ann “confessed” to her mother that she only “pretended” to go to Kenya, called in the birth and Grandma reports it to HI vital statistics, but she had “actually” never left Honolulu? Then new BC is put in vital records that we don't have that corrects the improperly reported Kenya birth?)

There are two signatures in addition to Dunham's that could be tied to actual persons and validated if it came to that.

66 posted on 10/20/2009 8:34:40 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: rocco55
probably created by Obots to get our side scurrying around.

Very likely. Since they are the ones always pointing out that the 338.17.8 law did not exist in '61. Never bothering to mention that a pretty much equivalent one did.

162 posted on 10/20/2009 3:11:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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