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Spider/Bug/Unknown Critter bites?

Posted on 10/11/2009 9:28:50 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: canuck_conservative

I like watermelon and fried chicken.


41 posted on 10/12/2009 7:02:49 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Grim

I was staying at a friend’s house. Dear God I don’t think they’d have bed bugs. Now I’m freaking out, thinking they jumped in my suitcase and came home with me.


42 posted on 10/12/2009 7:23:02 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Don’t mess around with this bite. My nephew was bit 3 times on his shin just below his knee by some kind of spider - we’re not sure what type. He said it was like a bee sting - it felt like it was burning. He treated it with alcohol and neosporin and didn’t go to the doctor for 3 full days. On the third day the venom started moving up his leg towards his groin area. He was in terrible pain. The ER doc got him on a gurney immediately and they started treating him with IV antibiotics and something to counteract the venom. The doctor said in another day he might have been close to death. My nephew told the doctor he was unemployed and had no insurance. Mike has a hole in his leg the size of a quarter and it was deep, very deep you could see muscle and what looked like bone. The flesh is slowly growing back.


43 posted on 10/12/2009 7:56:25 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Go to a doctor.


44 posted on 10/12/2009 8:06:14 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It takes a while for all symptons to appear. If it was a Brown Recluse damage will continue to appear for days. Watch out for secondary bacterial infection.

Some doctors believe that Brown Recluse venom can affect you for very long periods of time. My experience bears this out.

45 posted on 10/12/2009 9:06:08 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

A good friend of ours was just treated for Lyme’s disease.
It was pretty nasty. Had her in the hospital a couple different times over a month. It was originally misdiagnosed as meningitis.
This is usually contracted after being bitten by a deer tick.
These are common in Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Judging by your homepage I’m assuming you were bitten in Tennesee. But I would guess they have ticks there also.


46 posted on 10/12/2009 9:29:32 AM PDT by toast
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To: Texas Fossil
That's why I mentioned the websites for spider bite kits. They have good descriptions and pics of the bites so you can possibly identify the villain from the wound they inflict.

The herbal treatments also have no potential for overstimulating the heart. I wouldn't put a nitro patch on without the supervision of a physician. Probably not even then since I'm a lifelong smoker.

47 posted on 10/12/2009 12:48:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: familyop

Doggone you’ve been bit up a lot. Your blood must be a potent antivenin at this point.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 12:53:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: Vendome
The way you end up with a big crater is to go to a medical doctor. With the exception of the doctor Texas Fossil knows the only treatment a physician has for a Brown Recluse or Hobo Spider bite is antibiotics (does nothing about the venom) and excising the necrotic tissue.

A proper herbal poultice will reduce the pain almost immediately and completely heal the flesh leaving no scar much less a big hole.

49 posted on 10/12/2009 12:59:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: TigersEye

What is the herbal remedy?

Thanks


50 posted on 10/12/2009 1:15:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: TigersEye
"Doggone you’ve been bit up a lot. Your blood must be a potent antivenin at this point."

...spent most of my life in tropical and near-tropical climates. Now I'm on the Rockies and away from all of that. ;-) IMO, it's better around bears, mountain lions and arctic weather than with so many more dangerous little critters that thrive in hot weather.


51 posted on 10/12/2009 1:21:26 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: TigersEye

Interesting. I looked it up and there are some fascinating sites.

I need to investigate and put in my med kits.

Thanks for the info.

FWIW, the doctor, for my Mom’s husband, really didn’t do much but flush, cut and give antibiotics.


52 posted on 10/12/2009 1:25:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Here is one of the websites I have found. There is a link in the text to which herbs they use. I couldn't give a direct link to the list of herbs only because it is in a pop-up window.

http://www.brown-recluse.com/

They add activated charcoal to what I had already known. Other purveyors may have different formulas but they probably all use plantain leaf. This site doesn't mention that plantain has enzymes that break down the venom.

53 posted on 10/12/2009 1:28:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: familyop
LOL I have spent most of my life in the Rockies and I agree. Our spiders are small and there aren't many other nasty biters and stingers. We are supposed to have Hobo spiders but I haven't found one. Brown recluses but I haven't seen one of those. We have a few Black Widows but, while they creep out my arachnophobic tendencies, they are shy and easily avoided.

The arctic weather, that has come early this year, puts a real crimp in the style of insects and spiders. Sub-freezing temperatures are the great cleanser.

54 posted on 10/12/2009 1:38:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Any reaction to any bite can lead to an allergic reaction..Get to the ER, such reactions can lead to death..Swelling, redness, shortness of breath, dizziness...quite waiting and move to ER while you can...swelling on the outside can lead to swelling on the inside which results in breathing problems...
55 posted on 10/12/2009 1:40:52 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: TigersEye

That is the first one I went to earlier. I am going to investigate.

It ain’t big critters that bother me. It is the little one, who in my opinion, is more dangerous.

I hike alone and friends always ask “What about a mountain lion?”

To which I reply “Well we are going to have one hell of a fight on our hands but in general I am viewed as a predator, not a meal. I am aware of the danger”

I then go on to explain that the little damn bugs worry me more. Having had tick fever 20 years I always use bug spray and tons of it. Deet is my favorite.


56 posted on 10/12/2009 2:01:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
I agree with the general tone of your original post, ie don't wait to seek or apply treatment. I just wanted to offer an alternative solution. Some docs may do very well treating Recluse bites and so forth. But I have heard numerous stories of people having big areas of flesh excised and months of pain and anti-biotic regimens and that's just not necessary.

I might use some tobacco in a poultice. It is slightly anti-biotic and a drawing agent. Cayenne is a drawing agent and brings blood to the area which is what has the real power houses of healing and internal cleaning.

If I had a lot of gangrenous tissues I might use Baptisia tinctoria root. (Wild Indigo) Dried ground root in the poultice and tinctured root internally. That is the only herb with potential toxicity and would be the hardest to find. In central Texas you might have a field full of it. Some herb outfit would have it though.

57 posted on 10/12/2009 2:01:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
If the skin starts to darken, RUN to the Doctor, and check to see if it is a Recluse bite. If it is you need treated fast.

A fellow that shops at our store regularly recently got bit and he lost about a 6 inch circle of flesh on the back of his leg clear down into the muscle and he was treated within a couple of days of the bite.

The Doc said if he waited much longer it may have went down to the bone.

58 posted on 10/12/2009 2:08:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: TigersEye

I was thinking just dump sugar on it, if I am home.

Apparently the Romans used sugar for wounds and septis and it actually a very good remedy.

It doesn’t appear to be any more complicated than putting a bunch of C&H on it.

I remembered my Aunt doing that to my cousin we were kids, for some open wound he had on his leg. Got it while climbing down a tree and ripped his leg open a branch that was a sharp stub.

I only remembered it after seeing a movie called Shooter, with Mark Wahlberg.


59 posted on 10/12/2009 2:08:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: TigersEye

“I wouldn’t put a nitro patch on without the supervision of a physician.”

Probably good advice, but I cut the patch down to the size of the bite area. In my case about 3/8” diameter. Had no adverse effects, but am aware that nitro patches are potentially dangerous.

This happened over a holiday weekend, and by the time I saw the doctor, it had already started to heal. It did turn dark sooner than he would have expected.


60 posted on 10/12/2009 2:12:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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