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To: Sherman Logan; Islaminaction
Sherman Logan ~ "Allah" is actually the Arabic word for "god" and is used as such by Arab Christians and in Arabic Bibles.

Islaminaction ~ This is the least important part of the article.

Least important and not particularly accurate. Technically yes, it is the word is used in arabic language Bibles.

BUT there was an article right here on FR recently where the mooooooooslims strenuously objected to Christians calling the Christian God by the name allah.

They made it quite clear that allah is the god of the queer-ann, and it is NOT the God of the Torah or the Bible.

Got that? THEY say that allah is NOT God.

Let me repeat that:

mohammedan clerics INSISTED that allah is not GOD.

11 posted on 10/10/2009 3:37:30 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 261 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

I’d like a reference please.

The Koran itself is quite clear the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) worship the same God, just not in the right way.

That’s why the PotB aren’t supposed to be massacred if they refuse to convert, the way actual pagans are.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 3:44:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: null and void

Sura 29:46

Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner - unless they transgress - and say, “We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters.”


13 posted on 10/10/2009 3:48:53 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: null and void; LucyT

Qur’an 68:15 “When you recite Our proofs and verses (from the Qur’an) they cry, ‘Tales of the ancients, mere fables of long ago.’ Soon shall We muzzle them and brand the beast on the snout!” Ouch! Muhammad’s Lord chafes when he’s called a plagiarizer. Must be hitting a little too close to home. Let’s turn to the Sira to see how close... Ishaq:180 “According to my information, the Apostle often sat by a young Christian slave named Jabr. The Meccans said, ‘He is the one who teaches Muhammad most of what he brings.’” Then Allah revealed, Qur’an 16:103 “We know what they (pagans) say: ‘It is only a mortal man who teaches him (Muhammad). But the tongue of the man they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this (Qur’an) is pure Arabic.’” When accused of plagiarism, the best Team Islam could do was to claim that the Bible Jabr was quoting from wasn’t written in Arabic. That’s a problem. First, by responding to the Meccan’s claim that Muhammad was out of his mind, a demon-possessed madman, plagiarizing scripture, the Qur’an confirmed that these were legitimate concerns. Muhammad’s kin were convinced he was demon possessed and insane.

Second, the Qur’an continues to reflect man’s least civil nature rather than rising above the fray and inspiring humankind. Name-calling isn’t divine and the never-ending argument isn’t motivational. Further, without the supplemental “scripture” from the Hadith, the Qur’an’s response is senseless. No one would have any way of knowing who was talking to whom, or why. Senseless material that floats aimlessly outside place, circumstance, and time doesn’t belong in a book that claims to be dictated word for word by God.

Third, if Arabic was Allah’s chosen language for revelation, why were “his” earlier revelations written in Hebrew and Greek? And as illiterates, Team Islam remains confused as to how translations work. Words are just tools, names for things and ideas mankind uses to convey a message. Every language has a word for demon, god, mad, and plagiarize. But this argument goes to the root of why today’s Muslims say their Qur’anic message can’t be translated - they still don’t understand the nature of language. Little do they know, the Greek Gospels they are so fond of claiming credit for literally began their existence as translations of Aramaic conversations.

Fourth, the source of the Qur’an’s inspiration and its audience was so dimwitted, the claim was posited that changing the language obfuscated the source. That’s as lame as Muslims claiming that Muhammad couldn’t have stolen his Qur’an from the Bible because he couldn’t read, suggesting the surahs were miraculous. Yet even the Qur’an pokes holes in this argument by saying the Jews incorrectly read their scriptures to Muhammad, saying words that weren’t really on their scrolls. All this Christian source had to do was to verbally convey the gist of the Biblical stories. And judging by the quality of the material we are reading, the prophet was qualified to twist them from there.

Fifth, by bringing this argument, the Qur’an injured itself. The rebuttal is a lie. The Qur’an wasn’t written in “pure Arabic.” The plethora of parentheses in the Qur’an text we have been examining proves this. They were put there to fill in missing words, fix the grammatical errors, solve the problem of dangling participles, and render a discernable message. Moreover, as you’ll discover in the “Source Material” appendix, the Qur’an’s most important words are foreign. They are Christian Syriac or Rabbinic Hebrew. Allah’s book contains many words that have no meaning in any language, including Arabic. In its defense, the Qur’an says only Allah knows what they mean. But that defeats the whole purpose of scripture.

http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_09_Demented_Deity.Islam

THE KORAN IS NOTHING BUT ANCIENT ARAB LORE MIXED WITH THE TORAH AND THE NEW TESTAMENT. IT’S PLAGIARIRISM, PURE AND SIMPLE.


19 posted on 10/10/2009 4:18:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: null and void

Got it Sherman.


40 posted on 10/10/2009 6:20:52 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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