Glenn Beck Talking about the Social Justice Movement within Religion, Catholic Church involved

[Scythian]

This woman is talking about how her kids are bringing home Social Justice teachings at the catholic school ... I'm sure other faiths are too ...

[EmilyGeiger]

There is some information about this movement in the book “A Patriot’s History of the United States”. The point was to develop a sense of tolerance and apathy toward different religions, and this group favored redistribution of wealth and state regulation of business, among other social programs. This movement began during Woodrow Wilson’s tenure in office. This movement also caused many in denominations to abandon any claims about scriptures literal accuracy. Catholicism was one of the first to adopt “social gospelism”.

Ping!

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

The Works of Mercy are commands of following Christ. We can't hold ourselves so tight that we ignore what it means to serve God.

I give money or time to the church when I can, because that is a way to serve my church and in return also Christ. The point about charitable giving from churches is because we are charged to help those who need it. That is why we get upset when the government wants to make us charitable per taxes, instead of us giving to who we want to. People of faith are the greatest giving people in the world, because it is right, it is how we serve God.

We can't get so carried away with all of this that we can't give a glass of water to a person because if they find out we have water, they will want food too.

We have had quite a few things happen to us over the last few months, and we have had neighbors right there to help no questions asked. This is how Christians should be. In fact out of the 6 neighbors who came to our rescue, the one who wouldn't help was the good Christian who goes to church every week, she couldn't be bothered. The others weren't church goers at all, but they had no problem acting in a Godly way. I love America and helping is the American way. Let's not think we shouldn't be concerned about our neighbor, but we can't give our blood to a vampire. We will also die. The only thing we can do is pray for guidance and do what we can. That is what Christ asks of each of us.

[delphirogatio]

I think my finer point is man’s ridiculously difficult aversion to understanding that it is God, Who allows us the privilege of participating with Him, Who is changing the hearts and minds of people, which will then necessarily infiltrate all of society.

The church, as with all human institutions, must diligently & ardently defend scriptural doctrine. Scriptural doctrine does not mean, “Hey I found this verse buried in Hagai...so let’s build an enterprise off of it!” Scritptural doctrine means considering the FULL counsel of God, using the Word of God to interpret the Word of God to arrive at a conclusion.

[vharlow]

There have been at least two papal encyclicals condeming socialism as evil. Yet the church does teach that we must care for the poor. I don’t have a problem with that, because as a church community, sharing to help others is quite OK with me. On the other hand, governments TAKING my money to distribute to others is another matter, and certainly NOT what I would call “social justice.” Justice does not plunder one group to benefit another..... that’s theft, and there is no way to make it a right thing. Calling it “legal” is just a distortion of the real right reason laws exist among men in the first place.

[from occupied ga]

It’s more like (at best) the (earthly) guy at the center of Rome isn’t doing much about it.

Well, they haven't exactly hidden it, so he's had the opportunity to stomp on them, and hasn't visibly done anything about it. I'm guessing that at the very least he doesn't disapprove.

[gogeo]

The Works of Mercy are commands of following Christ. We can't hold ourselves so tight that we ignore what it means to serve God.

I give money or time to the church when I can, because that is a way to serve my church and in return also Christ. The point about charitable giving from churches is because we are charged to help those who need it. That is why we get upset when the government wants to make us charitable per taxes, instead of us giving to who we want to. People of faith are the greatest giving people in the world, because it is right, it is how we serve God...

You are, sad to say, a useful idiot. While we are commanded to care for our brother, our PRIMARY concern is for his spiritual well being.

[Radl]

I always thought Catholics believe they would be committing a “mortal” sin by not attending church on Sunday. If that’s the case I would think praying the “beads” would be a waste of time. Wouldn’t it be smarter for you to attend a mass even if the church is not conservative and pray the beads there? Just curious.

[gogeo]

Scritptural doctrine means considering the FULL counsel of God, using the Word of God to interpret the Word of God to arrive at a conclusion...

Not only wise, but spiritually sound.

[ConservativeWarrior]

The backlash on all this is going to be rather interesting.

Warning: Rant to follow.

I think the degree of backlash will depend largely on the parish involved, and more importantly, the pastor.

Over the summer, I grew increasingly frustrated with mass petitions. They were flat-out socialistic. "that those who govern will enact laws which promote social justice." "That our leaders will protect the environment." "That elected officials will ensure every individual has the opportunity to receive a quality education." We also have the goofy guitar music, complete with drums and piano glessandos. There are never any pro-life, pro-troop, or change-of-heart-for-misguided-leaders petitions.

This is a big parish, 7,000+ members. I managed to setup a phone call with the pastor, a msgr. I expressed my concerns, and was basically told that while he himself is "quite traditional," the church needs to embrace all types, and these petitions and "modern" music are what appeal to the new parishioner.

I explained that the bible asks us to care for the poor out of charity, it does not ask us to force our leaders into enact socialism. I explained that when "Catholics" drive to church with an Obama sticker on their car, something is wrong. All I got was "I can't tell people who to vote for." Nevermind that the mass just before election didn't feature a pro-life sermon, but instead our sister parish's pastor begging for money in broken english.

I have been trying other parishes in the area. When we do go to mass, I no longer contribute to the collection. Instead I send the money to pro-life causes.

I don't know where things are heading, but I'm not going to be led to socialism by the church.

The worst of it is that my family and I used to view mass as a refuge from the insanity of pop culture, a place to recharge and gather strength against the storm. Now mass just leaves me angry. It's very frustrating.

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

The only thing we can do is pray for guidance and do what we can. That is what Christ asks of each of us.

And that would include praying for my brother and sister. I guess I will take the charge of being a useful idiot, and will pray for your spiritual well being as well as others.

[G Larry]

“as espoused by the American conference of catholic bishops”

Who frequently let their liberalism distort the teachings of Rome!

[steve86]

Follow through on Netmilsmom’s advice and also offer an intention during your rosary that you find a proper parish. For me it is a Latin Mass, but several FReepers assist at relatively orthodox Ordinary rites, with none of the questionable liturgy (or left wing celebrants!).

[Rockingham]

You are on the mark. I went to Catholic schools from K-12 and saw the 60’s play out. Some of the most “with it” and liberal priests of that era were later proved to be the ones preying on kids.

[Prince Caspian]

Revelation 18:4

[steve86]

If a Catholic feels that attending a particular Mass may endanger his faith he may considered correct in avoiding it. I know the feeling — a couple hundred miles from me is a flagrant homosexual priest with a disgustingly progressive “liturgy”. My faith would be endangered if I attended that Mass (because I might become disgusted with the church in general). So it is better not to darken that doorstep even if I were to miss Mass that day.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If you look at things he says, it seems he knows better than to buy into that stuff personally. But somehow the communication model seems to be generalized preaching and if they don’t catch the hints and comply, well God knows best and we won’t go further. Perhaps that was the most practical thing to do in olden days, but Al Gore’s invention has vastly shrunk the world and the whole Roman church is virtually on the pope’s desktop now. Maybe tradition will catch up in another hundred years, who knows!

[netmilsmom]

>>er, We believeknow our view of Him is better <<

It’s okay, humans make mistakes all the time. I’m not going to let your self-righteousness get in the way of my beliefs.

[netmilsmom]

That’s GREAT!
We seem to stick to spaghetti.

[netmilsmom]

Look on Masstimes.

Like I said, those with Adoration or Benediction times will be more conservative.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You can only conceive of it as “self righteousness” because you do not know, or at best do not understand, the righteousness that comes by faith from God.