Posted on 10/03/2009 10:12:08 PM PDT by devere
As one of those long-standing freepers, I'll answer this. It's not a psychological aversion, except maybe an aversion to falsehoods. You seem to think it's a matter of what one *wants to be* rather than *what is*. You're wrong. It doesn't matter of one hates Obama or loves him. Whether he is eligible is a question of fact.
If fact is true one shouldn't say it is false or vice versa, no matter where one falls politically. That's the number one mistake the Birthers are making. They think their facts must be true because they want to be rid of Obama.
Those of us who dispute the Birthers and criticize Orly, do so because we believe they are wrong about the facts. It's no deeper than that.
“Those of us who dispute the Birthers and criticize Orly, do so because we believe they are wrong about the facts. It’s no deeper than that.”
I have trouble understanding how any rational person can believe that someone like Soetoro/Obama who spends $millions suppressing his birth and school records isn’t hiding something very material. The first principal of winning legal disputes is if the truth is in your favor make it public quickly and repeatedly. Even if the truth is embarrassing but not legally damning you make it public and get past it.
That’s why I search for psychological explanations for those conservatives who pretend to believe that the facts are actually in Obama’s favor. You folks make me rub my eyes and shake my head in amazement.
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People who act and write crazy are crazy. Those who don’t, aren’t.
Simple!
“she’s still an incompetent nut who isn’t qualified to run a taco truck.”
Orlie Taitz is licensed to practice dentistry and law in the State of California, which is more than I personally have achieved. Last I checked she owns the dental practice, and has a number of other dentists working for her.
It’s ridiculous to expect perfection from anyone in any difficult field of endeavor. Did you know that Reggie Jackson struck out 2,597 times, and he still was enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame with a 93.6% vote on the first ballot?
If he is proved to be an ineligible fraud, and those who could do something about it don’t due to fear of consequences, our republic is over at that point.
From then on, any schmuck from anywhere can freely lie, bribe, thug, and violate his way into the office of the President. That would be the precedent.
If Reggie Jackson struck out 2,597 times in 2,597 at bats then he'd be a laughing stock. Orly hasn't lost 2,600 birther cases, but she has lost every one she's filed.
He can hide all kinds of things without it making him ineligible for the office. Remember, the issue is legal eligibility, not his character.
Also, he hasn't spent millions to hide things. He's spent whatever to pay lawyers to write filings in lawsuits he didn't originate. They've done exactly what they should be expected to do in the circumstances.
Ah! So you've finally recognized that Orly is crazy. Great.
Because "those" forget that they first have to show that a fraud exists.
Did you know that Reggie Jackson struck out 2,597 times, and he still was enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame with a 93.6% vote on the first ballot?
Or another way of saying it is that the other 73.7% of the time or 7,267 at bats he didn’t strike out.
Now Orly has yet to get out of the batters box other than a strikeout. I’d love to see her get to first base, hit a home run or maybe just a sacrifice bunt.
“Orly hasn’t lost 2,600 birther cases, but she has lost every one she’s filed.”
And if she wins just one case, her name will belong with Washington’s when great Americans are spoken of. Will you be disappointed? Or possibly happy that your country has been saved from the communist imposter?
Looking at her dental website, I’d guess she’s put a $200,000+ per year career on hold, to say nothing of interrupting her family life with her husband and three sons, just to try to save America from Obama. And all the gratitude she gets for her patriotic service is some of her fellow conservatives call her a “nut”. That’s Obama’s job, folks; you don’t need to do his dirty work for him.
A very, very big 'if'.
Will you be disappointed.
Amazed might be a better description. Taitz is Obama's best weapon in this whole birther circus.
And all the gratitude she gets for her patriotic service is some of her fellow conservatives call her a “nut”.
Well let me be the first to say that Orly Taitz has provided me with countless laughs over the past few months. And for that I thank her.
That’s Obama’s job, folks; you don’t need to do his dirty work for him.
Why should he have all the fun?
“they first have to show that a fraud exists.”
Some of us absurd crazy traditionalists believe that Barry whateverhisnameis has to show he is eligible to serve as POTUS. And so far he has not done so. We’ll find out tomorrow what Judge David Carter thinks.
She's succeeded in elevating the BC issue from a conspiracy to high comedy.
“Well let me be the first to say that Orly Taitz has provided me with countless laughs over the past few months. And for that I thank her.”
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Theodore Roosevelt, April 23, 1910
Go Orly! Expose the imposter!
And that's one reason why some people do call you crazy. You think you can make up rules as you go. BTW, that doesn't make you a traditionalist.
Obama IS president. That's the status quo. He doesn't have to prove anything else in order to get the job he already has. Birthers want to overturn the status quo. To do that, or to have a hope of doing that, they need to prove a valid case.
“Obama IS president. That’s the status quo. He doesn’t have to prove anything else in order to get the job he already has.”
“if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified” 20th Amendment, US Constitution.
Obama indisputably became President-elect when Congress tallied the electoral votes. So far he hasn’t seemed to qualify for the office, so it’s anyone’s guess if he is legally the President, or just an imposter. Will as some surmise all of his actions be retroactively disqualified? The courts need to rule on the law and the facts, since the constitution is unclear on the correct procedure for proving qualification for office. They may in fact rule that qualification is a political matter, and anyone is qualified who is acceptable to Congress. Or they may take a different viewpoint, and assert that qualification is a legal matter which can be adjudicated by the courts. If Judge Carter is brave enough to hear the case, we may find out in a few months.
It would be great if some high-powered competent legal team unseated Obama.
I seriously doubt it will be Taitz.
Obama could do worse than to have hired her to put a clown's face on the whole issue.
>> Orly is the only one doing anything in the birther arena these days.
> She’s succeeded in elevating the BC issue from a conspiracy to high comedy.
This has happened through the Democrats application of the Saul Alinsky rule of ridicule.
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