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To: MissTickly

I asked for records proving he amended/corrected his birth certificate.

They had to answer in one of four ways.
One of those ways is “the agency does not maintain those records”

They didn’t answer with that one. They told me I couldn’t have them because they were protected by state law.

What state law protects something that doesn’t exist? Point me to the statute.


174 posted on 10/02/2009 10:36:13 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

Apparently the state admitted that you would have a right to obtain copies of invoices or fees paid subsequent to any amendment even though it could not show you what was in any such amendment. Did it ever admit there was any such invoice or fees? Did it turn them over to you?

There are logical problems with saying “the agency does not maintain those records” if said records do not exist. If there is an admission that fees or invoices subsequent to such records DO exist then it cannot say they don’t.

With no admission of such invoices or fees then I don’t know where you stand.

Are you certain that there are any fees associated with changing/amending a record. It would be in the interest of the state to have accurate records so they may not exist.

There is also the question of how throughly the state would investigate the appropriateness of any change. How would it verify that it was the person involved who was requesting a change? Or that the change was true?

There must be a procedure the state uses to address those questions and that procedure might also be something of interest to you.


178 posted on 10/02/2009 11:00:14 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: MissTickly

The record shows obama was adopted by his Indonesian father. So he would have an amended birth certificate if that was the case.


181 posted on 10/02/2009 11:09:14 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: MissTickly

Miss Tickly,

Am I correct to presume the following? Thank you in advance.

1. If the birth certificate has been amended, the last amendment is considered by the Hawaii DOH to be the original.

2. That would make possibly 3 birth certificates.
A. The one at birth
B. The one amended when adopted
C. The amended one showing Obama as father again

Hawaii birth certificates show at the bottom if they have been amended. Why does the one Obama produced not show any amendments?


182 posted on 10/02/2009 11:11:34 PM PDT by Leddaddy
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