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To: AmericanVictory
We have several obama annoyance droids (obamanoids) trying to repeat the lie that if Barry were born on American soil he is a natural born citizen ... it's the old deceit that repeating a lie often enough causes it to become an axiom of truth to the weak minded who are easily herded.

It is a simple matter to show that this lie is being foisted as a diversdion from the truth. Deceitful posters are then exposed when they try to make the lie stand.

One quick note: the obamanoids will play both sides of their counterfeit coin, claiming there is no definition in the Constitution for Natural Born. It is chosen by them then to reject all possible definitions except the one that they fambricate which favors their deceit, which coincidentally would make all anchor babies natural born citizens. The game is to establish lie(s) through repetition, confusion, and/or default.

The following scenario will quickly illustrate that arrogantsob is purposely deceiving the forum with insistence that the only issue is where Barry was born.

In 1980, Stanley Ann filed papers in Hawaii to divorce Lolo Soetoro (recall that Barry was born in 1961, supposedly, so he would have been 19 when his mother filed for divorce). In her pleading to the court (and filing false claims to a court is a criminal act) she calimed that there were two children Lolo was responsible to assist financially, Maya, his daughter by birth, and a child over eighteen, the legally adopted Barry Soetoro, then already in his second year at Occidental College. This means that in 1980 Barry Soetoro was still legally, well, Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, adopted son of Lolo Soetoro, Indonesian. There are relevant clues which refer to statements Barry made to his sister Maya in 1988, Thanksgiving--according to his Ayers written autonarcissicuss biography, when Barry claimed that the name Barry was to be no more from then onward, he would be Barack Hussein Obama. But that point is not relevant to showing that the mere use of Indonesian citizenship by Barry Soetoro--to enter Occi College as an Indonesian, or obtain foreign student aid, or acquire a passport as an Indonesian--would be an act by the individual to nullify the American citizenship he held in duality and thus forfeit natural birn status if he ever had it.

Now liars for Barry Obama, inc. will meticulously attack that scenario, but it is sound as a possible way, other than where Barry was born, to show he would not be a natural born citizen as an adult.

So, when you see an obamanoid trying to float an absolute, which deceit if accepted would make Barry's past forgeries and lies and possible criminal fraud mute by merely having an accepted document showing born in Hawaii, know that you are reading the work of not someone seeking truth, but a servant of lies for their expedience.

BTW, there are otyher ways that just having a genuine Hawaiian CoLB isn't proof of natural born citizenship, but that is for another roasting.

143 posted on 10/02/2009 9:22:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Your scenario can work in tandem with mine, FYI.=)

I am with you.


145 posted on 10/02/2009 9:24:57 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MHGinTN

The question about whether Barry Soetoro’s adult use of Indonesian citizenship (perhaps dual citizenship) would or would not nullify NBC status if he ever had it is interesting, but I think that the coverup is about this very scenario. He knows that if it can be shown that he had and used Indonesian citizenship on into his adult years, and has been trying to cover up the fact, he is finished, whether he is technically NBC or not. Zero credibility. I think the current obfuscation we are seeing from HI DOH is due to the fact that his BC is amended and shows Lolo and Ann as the parents of Barry Soetoro.


191 posted on 10/03/2009 6:16:15 AM PDT by Genoa
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