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Cops: Skater faces charges in right-of-way dispute
my way ^ | Sep 29, 3:26 PM (ET) | unknown

Posted on 09/29/2009 3:08:06 PM PDT by rocksblues

STAMFORD, Conn. (AP) - A Connecticut in-line skater faces assault and other charges after a confrontation over whether a 4-year-old on a tricycle had the right to be on a bike path. Stamford police charged 43-year-old Chris Karamon with third-degree assault, risk of injury to a minor and other crimes.

Police said Karamon shouted and cursed at the boy's parents on the path in Cove Island Park.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: connecticut; ct; megeneration
Any thoughts on who he voted for?
1 posted on 09/29/2009 3:08:09 PM PDT by rocksblues
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To: rocksblues

bet he was dressed in dayglo tights, too.


2 posted on 09/29/2009 3:11:20 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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To: rocksblues

>>Any thoughts on who he voted for?<<

Great minds think alike.

I used to use the burk-gillman trail all the time in Seattle. It is a trail for walking, families, bicyclists, you name it. I am an avid cyclist and find that the speed limits are too limiting on most trails. But to suggest that the twerp did not have a right to be on the trail is not just absurd. It borders on narcissism. When I travel fast on such trails, I am always aware that a kid I am passing could look back at mom and dad and simultaneously turn right across the path. And if I hit them it is MY fault.

If I want to go fast, I don’t use such trails.


3 posted on 09/29/2009 3:11:49 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Likewise when I rollerblade the greenlake trail.


4 posted on 09/29/2009 3:12:17 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: rocksblues

Christopher Karamon

5 posted on 09/29/2009 3:14:01 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: DemforBush; The Invisible Hand
bet he was dressed in dayglo tights, too.

I bet you are correct!

6 posted on 09/29/2009 3:23:38 PM PDT by steveo (Two Thousand Ten - Never Again)
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To: rocksblues

Had that been MY four year old, the headline would’ve been:

“Mother beats skater to death for abusing 4-year-old”

Touch my kid and that’s the LAST thing you’ll voluntarily do.


7 posted on 09/29/2009 3:31:20 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: ElenaM

Officer, He went to assault my son, I thought he was going to kill him.... I just pulled out the Glock and fired; what else could I do? I was in fear for my child’s life.... I thought he might even harm me. Tragic.


8 posted on 09/29/2009 4:11:04 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

Who needs a Glock? I’d make those animals in Chicago look like a kindergarten class. A .45 is too easy on ‘em.


9 posted on 09/29/2009 4:17:59 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: ElenaM
Who needs a Glock? I’d make those animals in Chicago look like a kindergarten class. A .45 is too easy on ‘em.

Well, a Glock 19 is reliable, light weight, fits nicely in a inside the pant holster, and comes with 15 round magazines. Loaded with Federal HP, it makes for a nice concealed carry weapon with ammo capacity for engaging multiple targets. Now, I'm with you on making Chicago thugs look like the amatures they are, but this is a nice family walk on a bike path in Conneticut, not a patrol with Kevlar, Ak-47 + 7 mags of AP, and some smoke grenades ;)

And besides you're right.... a .45 is too easy on 'em.... a gut shot with 9mm hollow points is terminally effective and not as quick.

10 posted on 09/29/2009 4:31:13 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

I want the last thing the dirtbag who goes after my 4 yo sees to be my foot coming for his face.

But that’s just me. If a Glock works for others, who am I to complain?

;-)


11 posted on 09/29/2009 4:42:03 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: RobRoy
I used to do a lot of in-line speed skate training on a popular bike path here in S.E. Michigan so I can relate to this guy. My biggest obstacle was people on this particular path who never gave a thought to observing the same rights of way as drivers on the highway. In other words, they were all over the path instead of staying on the right.

They would have kids with them on trikes and bikes who had no comprehension of safety and no parents herding them to the right side of the path for safety sake.

I would be approaching them from behind and yell out “on your left” and the kids, not knowing what the hell that meant, would remain on the left side of the path which left me no alternative but to bail out on the grass to avoid hitting them. Keep in mind that in-line-skates do not run on grass.

I’ve had a-holes on road bikes and mountain bikes run me off the path because they refused to grant me the right of way when they could just as easy veer off the path onto the grass then continue on and ultimately, when I was really pissed off, I would run them down then grab their bike seat from behind and give it a jerk while admonishing them about their obligation to follow the rules of the road.

In-line skaters do not have the freedom of skating on grass nor do they have the luxury of brakes. I gave up my speed skating training only because no matter how defensive I became in my skating, it was not enough to avoid the total ignorance of safety by the other users of the trail..........

12 posted on 09/29/2009 5:17:35 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

As long as you didn’t lay a hand on my kid, no problem.

And all of this is why I love living in the country.


13 posted on 09/29/2009 5:36:02 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: Hot Tabasco

Your inability to maintain control is not indicative of a problem by a child. If a child doesn’t move, you need to learn how to deal with it.


14 posted on 09/29/2009 5:38:13 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Your inability to maintain control

Au Contraire my friend, it was my ability to maintain control that allowed me to avoid wiping out the children whose parents had no control over on the bike path.........Reread my post.

15 posted on 09/29/2009 6:08:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: AppyPappy
Your inability to maintain control is not indicative of a problem by a child. If a child doesn’t move, you need to learn how to deal with it.

It’s good to meet a fellow in-line-skater on this site. So tell me, where do you do most of your skating? In your neighborhood or is there a convenient bike/hiking path that you skate on?

Based on your comment, it appears you are experienced with the bike/hiking paths. So tell me, what kind of speed do you attain while you are skating? And assuming you are on a path that is probably 8’ wide at best, what do you do when you approach from behind a family of maybe 4, two adults and two children, and the children all over the path in front of you? You have already announced your presence behind them by yelling “passing on your left” and yet there is no response from the children. So what do you do?

So here’s another scenario, same family ahead of you, this time the kids DO move to the right but unfortunately there is a guy coming at you from the opposite direction on a mountain bike that refuses to veer off the path onto the grass…….So what do you do?

Bicycles can ride on grass, in-line-skates can not. Bicycles have brakes, in-line-skaters do not. Common sense and common courtesy would grant the skater right of way considering all the options I have listed above.

What say you skate pro?

16 posted on 09/29/2009 6:40:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: rocksblues

um if a child on a tricycle is not allowed on a BIKE PATH then a fatso on rollerskates should not be on said BIKE PATH. what part of this is difficult to comprehend?


17 posted on 09/29/2009 6:53:25 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Dude, I have biked on trails for years. If the child doesn’t move, I stop. If you can’t stop, don’t go on the path.


18 posted on 09/29/2009 7:05:38 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I skate the old fashioned way . . . 4 ‘squarely’ on the floor on each boot.

Once skated from SKS MEMORIAL TAPEI up to my home at TIEN MOU WEST ROAD the long way around Da Yeh Taka Shi Maya one Chinese New Year’s evening. I think it took more than an hour and a half to cover . . . 5-7 miles. I should look up the distance some time.

Thankfully, there was little traffic and given the . . . tiles . . . on most of Taipei’s sidewalks . . . the side street parallel to the main street, but separated by a treed island, was the much better surface. Was one of the best experiences I had over there. Loved it. Passers by loved it, too.

I skated elsewhere in Taipei and Mainland China.

My limited experience with inline skates is that the old fashioned kind are much easier to slow or stop with.

I usually just slowed to a very slow pace around children or pets. Then, I could stop on a dime, if needed.

It would be fun to live in a scenic area with well paved paths exclusively for skates. Not going to happen this side of Armageddon unless some super wealthy skaters create their own village.


19 posted on 09/29/2009 8:50:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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