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Nordyke Birth Certs are BEST courtroom evidence !

Posted on 09/20/2009 11:33:11 PM PDT by rocco55

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To: etraveler13

ET-—Thx so much....I never saw ANY proof that Maya was born in Indonesia before. Now, how do we know that she has a COLB from HI ? I heard someone say Atty Berg stated that ?

I also just read that Orly might have missing page 11 from HI divorce decree...I CANNOT imagine her (or one of her investigators) finding that this late in the game....Hasn’t BO sealed ALL of his records from HI ? I tried to access some info via the UIPA (and I even paid an atty to assist me) to no avail...ALL of BO’s Hawaiian records are “sealed by court order” ! Uniform Information Practices Act does NOT apply to him ! Disgusting !


41 posted on 09/21/2009 1:57:49 PM PDT by rocco55
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I contend his birthplace is Kenya, that the Lucas Smith BC is genuine, and the COLB shown by FactCheck is a forgery, and the correct COLB shows as such.

The missing page 11 document pics...albiet partial

http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2536&sid=8903cffcea191d07d67781a24664d53b


From Bergs Website “ObamaCrimes.com”


It is correct that questions have been asked regarding our now President Obama’s birth place and the fact the issues of Obama’s citizenship is all over the internet, however, the rest of the assertions are inaccurate. The only document purporting to be Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was actually a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth [COLB], an image of which was placed on Obama’s campaign website in June of 2008. It is important to note, Hawaii also issues Certification of Live Births to children born abroad upon the registration by a family member of the birth. A Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth is issued to children who are United States “natural born” citizens as well as “naturalized” citizens, who did not qualify for “natural born” status. Take for instance, Maya Soetoro, Mr. Obama’s half-sister who was born in Jakarta, Indonesia in 1970, she too has a Certification of Live Birth, however, she is not a United States “natural born” citizen. There are serious questions as to the Associated Press, Honolulu’s recent statements that Dr. Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health stated she has verified Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack H. Obama was in fact born in Hawaii. If you recall October 31, 2008 and early November 2008, this same paper, AP, Honolulu ran an article stating Dr. Fukino and Hawaii Governmental Officials had in fact verified that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii. This is completely false, if you look at Dr. Fukino’s Press Release dated October 31, 2008, no where is it stated Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii or that any person verified that he was born in Hawaii. Instead, what it stated was Dr. Fukino along with the Hawaiian Registrar had verified Barack H. Obama’s birth certificate was on file according to the laws of Hawaii. At no time prior to AP Honolulu’s July 28, 2009 story, which is questionable, has any Hawaii Official, including Linda Lingle, backed up the claim that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.


There is much more on this subject...view it at:
http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.html

Hope this answers some questions for you...
E


42 posted on 09/21/2009 2:10:24 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

ET, Thanks for the info...you are certainly on the “cutting edge” for ‘truther’ updates !

Only problem is, now more than ever, there is SO MUCH confusion regarding the forthcoming docs ? Someone posted that Orly ‘already’ has this missing page 11 and will submit it at the 10/5/09 hearing. Supposedly, Orly made this announcement ‘on-line’ (I didn’t see it on her site, but maybe it’s on her FACEBOOK page ? ).

Then we have Donofrio (a BRILLIANT individual) who says that HE has breaking news that BO was, in fact, born in HI !! He gave a “stay tuned” message just today...

And, until today, I never even heard of AXJ (Action For Justice International)...why would they make a statement regarding newly obtained info that “one of our members and investigators have discovered (it) by accident in Hawaiian Legal Archives” (by ‘accident’? )-choice of words is indeed ambiguous “one of our members AND investigators” (?) Shouldn’t it state “one of our members along with cooperating investigators” ? or “one of our members, who is also an investigator” ?

And they were contacted by a “very prestigious law firm” ? What constitutes a “prestigious” law firm, anyway ?? None of the birthers have ‘prestigious’ law firms working on these cases ? Only Obama’s staff, by virtue of their egregiously exorbitant fees, could be considered prestigious (I guess ? !)

Also, does one have to be a member of AXJ to access their articles ?

and further: “AXJ will also not release nor publish the information received from the third party unless they authorize its publication.” Who is the THIRD PARTY if this info was gathered by one of their “members” ??

Very incoherent and vague memo to say the least !

Who knows where this charlatan was born? Could even be Canada for all we know. Why can’t Orly or Berg subpoena Peter Ogego, who said on LIVE radio that BO’s birthplace in Kenya was “already well-known” ??

Too many questions ! I “HATE” the fact that BO’s little minions in HI (including Linda Lingle who dismissed the Keyes vs. Lingle” lawsuit for ‘Lack of Standing’ hellooo ? ??) are hiding EVERYTHING ! Didn’t the senator of HI state that he wanted all birth info to be made public next year ?

When will this all end ? Sorry for venting, but this stuff KILLS me !

Feel free to send your comments.

Maybe you can start a post on these new findings as you’re VERY WELL VERSED on the latest news and appear to have a gift of separating truth from fiction ! Thx again ! Sorry to ramble...


43 posted on 09/21/2009 7:07:43 PM PDT by rocco55
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ET,

I might submit a quick post with the AXJ site info you sent to me...is that OK ?

Let me know...thx so much r55


44 posted on 09/21/2009 7:55:35 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: rocco55

Feel Free...


45 posted on 09/21/2009 11:11:15 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: rocco55

Only problem is, now more than ever, there is SO MUCH confusion regarding the forthcoming docs ? Someone posted that Orly ‘already’ has this missing page 11 and will submit it at the 10/5/09 hearing. Supposedly, Orly made this announcement ‘on-line’ (I didn’t see it on her site, but maybe it’s on her FACEBOOK page ? ).


http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2536&sid=8903cffcea191d07d67781a24664d53b

Then we have Donofrio (a BRILLIANT individual) who says that HE has breaking news that BO was, in fact, born in HI !! He gave a “stay tuned” message just today...


This says that Obama’s birth records were recently ammended
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

And, until today, I never even heard of AXJ (Action For Justice International)...why would they make a statement regarding newly obtained info that “one of our members and investigators have discovered (it) by accident in Hawaiian Legal Archives” (by ‘accident’? )-choice of words is indeed ambiguous “one of our members AND investigators” (?) Shouldn’t it state “one of our members along with cooperating investigators” ? or “one of our members, who is also an investigator” ?

It is an international Group with no interest in US Politics, rather truth.

And they were contacted by a “very prestigious law firm” ? What constitutes a “prestigious” law firm, anyway ?? None of the birthers have ‘prestigious’ law firms working on these cases ? Only Obama’s staff, by virtue of their egregiously exorbitant fees, could be considered prestigious (I guess ? !)

My feeling is that this is a political powderkeg, and high priced attorneys do not want to be “offically” involved. So they are supplying anonymous tips to help Orly Taitz.
But, JMO

Also, does one have to be a member of AXJ to access their articles ?


No, go to the link above to read what you can...

and further: “AXJ will also not release nor publish the information received from the third party unless they authorize its publication.” Who is the THIRD PARTY if this info was gathered by one of their “members” ??


No, the High Priced attorneys gave them the scoop, and the members investigated it. They will not authorize publication because they wish to remain anonymous.

Very incoherent and vague memo to say the least !


Purposefully done that way.

Who knows where this charlatan was born? Could even be Canada for all we know. Why can’t Orly or Berg subpoena Peter Ogego, who said on LIVE radio that BO’s birthplace in Kenya was “already well-known” ??


Hospital Administrator:
John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961
Has dropped from sight recently, he is being searched for right now.

Too many questions ! I “HATE” the fact that BO’s little minions in HI (including Linda Lingle who dismissed the Keyes vs. Lingle” lawsuit for ‘Lack of Standing’ hellooo ? ??) are hiding EVERYTHING ! Didn’t the senator of HI state that he wanted all birth info to be made public next year ?


Linda Lingle, and Fukino are walking a polical tightrope, if the issue is settled and they do not have to become involved, unless suponead, becoming transparent after the danger has passed, is a politically win-win decision.

When will this all end ? Sorry for venting, but this stuff KILLS me !


This is how the thought process works, keep it up. I will answer what I can, and what I can’t...well there are brilliant people on this thread, I am sure they can.

Feel free to send your comments.

Maybe you can start a post on these new findings as you’re VERY WELL VERSED on the latest news and appear to have a gift of separating truth from fiction ! Thx again ! Sorry to ramble...


Not a problem...Hope this helps.


46 posted on 09/22/2009 10:07:04 AM PDT by etraveler13
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You listed Hospital Administrator as “John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961” ...however I thought the current Administrator who signed the Lucas Smith doc is Helton Maganga who is currently employed by the hospital...so that was my post from about a week ago...WHY HASN’T ANYONE CONTACTED HELTON MAGANGA ?

Internet hits will verify that he/she is CURRENTLY employed in Kenya so I do not see what the problem is, unless George Soros gave Helton an early retirement plan ?


47 posted on 09/22/2009 11:46:24 AM PDT by rocco55
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Information on Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate
Supplied by Lucas Smith, who personally got it in Kenya.


This is a typed document
Copy is issued on Feb 19, 2009 by
Hilton Magonga
Chief Administrator (so should be there today)
Issued by:
Coast Province General Hospital
Mombasa British Protectoriate of Kenya
Certificate Number 32018
DOB August 4, 1961 Time: 7:42PM
Weight: 7Lbs, 1 Oz
18” Long
Width at Shoulders: 6”
Mother: Stanley Ann Obama
Maiden Name: Dunham
Birthplace of Mother:
Wichita, KS, United States
Residence of Mother:
Honalulu, Hawaii, United States
Occupation of Mother: Student
Father:
Barak Hussein Obama
DOB: 1936
Birthplace of Father:
Kanyadhiang village,Kenya
Occupation of Father: Student
Attending Physician:
James O. W. Ang’Awa
Hospital Administrator:
John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961

Helton is the Chief Administrator, Odongo is the Hospital Administrator..see above.


48 posted on 09/22/2009 12:21:46 PM PDT by etraveler13
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OK...gotcha !

Thanks for detailed explanation....I WANT to believe that this is a true doc, I only wish Smith didn’t have such a tarnished past...

Thx for ALL your help !


49 posted on 09/22/2009 1:28:05 PM PDT by rocco55
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