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To: b4its2late

Business is certainly not dieing off the way it was. Even the mall here is filling up again with businesses.


4 posted on 09/15/2009 11:34:30 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: DonaldC

where’s this at? I live in Ohio. Our recession is nowhere near over. Businesses are closing up, not opening up.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 11:38:32 AM PDT by RC one
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To: DonaldC

People are being told to top their credit cards before filing bankruptcy.

I even saw that on FR this morning.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 11:42:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: DonaldC
Business is certainly not dieing off the way it was. Even the mall here is filling up again with businesses.

Commercial Realestate will lead the second half of this recession, from what I know. The commercial investors have been eating their own equity in the form of interest payments while land goes unsold, development is stifled by manufacturing, distribution, warehouse and office vacancies fall or stagnate. There will come a time when the big money runs out and losses will be booked and unloaded. Commercial property values are way down and default in many cases will be a better option than a fire sale. Also, most development is financed by LLC investors that are protected. When they run out of money and the proceeds from a sale will not cover a loan, they will liquidate, fold and walk. The old money out there with staggering lien leveraged assets will see lenders in a second wave of crisis. The unit numbers will not be so high but the dollars will be staggering.

Why haven't we heard more about this? It is bad business for an investor or a proprietor to announce that he is having trouble with investments or that he can't pay his bills. It is the investors that are credited with securing financing from lenders and much of it comes with secured down payments and the credit worthiness of the application participants. They do not want to announce, "Hey, we are just going to give that one to the bank." then turn around and ask, "Look we have all this money. Can we get a loan to purchase and develop this property?" They do all they can to hid their identities as it is for this very reason.

16 posted on 09/15/2009 11:53:28 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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