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To: MikeWUSAF

Thats odd, how come it didn’t when we detonated nukes south of Hawaii, and in the ionosphere in the 50’s and 60’s?

Emp attacks are fiction.


107 posted on 09/09/2009 10:09:04 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=6907033

Starfish was not very big, but it zapped power circuits in Hawai’i.

http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2006/03/emp-radiation-from-nuclear-space.html

The Soviets set up a test with a long telephone line, shielded underground power line, and high yield space shot. The story starts a little ways down from the top. They measured large currents, about 3000 Amps 30 microseconds post burst. This was much worse than the currents from Starfish. The amplifiers all along the line failed, and peak voltage was estimated at 300 KV or more based on arc tube discharges.

The underground power line also picked up significant current, and most equipment connected to it was damaged.

Russia popped two 300 KT devices at lower-than-optimum altitudes and caused military generators and mil power systems to fail due to EMP. There is not a lot of infrastructure in Khazakstan to notice much. “Ho! Yak-butter lamp went out!”

We have indeed seen significant EMP damage as verified by test. We have rarely detonated significant yield devices at the correct altitude, though. A ground-pounder produces source-region EMP but not the same type as High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP). So MIKE, IVY, and so forth did not produce HEMP. There were atmospheric tests in Nevada though that had radially-placed instrument cables melt from SREMP, a fairly local effect.


121 posted on 09/09/2009 10:50:10 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Nathan Zachary
"Thats odd, how come it didn’t when we detonated nukes south of Hawaii, and in the ionosphere in the 50’s and 60’s?

Emp attacks are fiction."

The possibility of an EMP attack is just that. A possibility. Now, if you are saying that the EMP effect is fiction, then you are either incredibly ignorant, or being deliberately obtuse.

As for the testing we did back in the "50’s and 60’s", you really should bone up on the difference between fission (atomic) and fusion (hydrogen), and the difference between the two types of bombs. I'm no expert, but even I know THAT not unsubtle difference. We performed many tests back then with a vast array of variables. Not all of the tests we performed were altitude-detonated and not all of the bombs were of the same yield. You might want to check this site out (http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Dominic.html) for verification of that, and note this excerpt: "The electromagnetic pulse (EMP) from this test sent power line surges throughout Oahu, knocking out street lighting, blowing fuzes and circuit breakers, and triggering burglar alarms."

And speaking of fiction, (like the show Jericho)....do you 'really' want to get into the subject of how many technologies we have today that heretofore, in the past, were thought of as mere fiction, or rather, as science fiction?

178 posted on 09/09/2009 12:58:12 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Nathan Zachary

EMP itself is a fictional construct intended to scare us and make us hide cell phones in microwave ovens.


224 posted on 09/11/2009 6:55:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Tagline pawned: Ticket Number 1032983. Redeem by Oct 4, 2009.)
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