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Kristoff cites the VA as a great system. I used to work in a VA hospital and I'm a vet. It would be the last place I would want to be treated for any serious medical problem
1 posted on 09/03/2009 12:50:44 PM PDT by Signalman
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Kristoff cites the VA as a great system. I used to work in a VA hospital and I'm a vet. It would be the last place I would want to be treated for any serious medical problem

Which is perhaps one of the greatest crimes of all. Shameful.
2 posted on 09/03/2009 12:54:32 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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The VA actually operates in competition with other health care providers since the rules were changed and only those with service related injuries and those without other insurance can be treated without being charged for their services.

So you can’t compare the VA to Canada’s or Britain’s socialized medicine.


3 posted on 09/03/2009 12:55:53 PM PDT by Reddy (Science is not consensus; and science based on consensus is not science, but propaganda.)
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Only Kristoff could come up with such nonsense. Medicare, the VA, and IHS (Indian Health Services) are ALL bankrupt ( out of money kaput zero nada). These services suffer from rationing, clinic like efficiencies, and care that is not the best it could be. Is that to say that the people ( docs and nurses and others) aren’t doing their best? NO WAY. On a daily basis these folks TRY to get the bureaucracy to allow them to practise top notch medicine. Routinely they are denied that ability ( lack of equipment, lack of office time, lack of office space, and on and on).

Whatever the short comings of private insurance there is at least the opportunity to go else where when your care is not up to snuff. The VA this year particularly is trying to shove vets out of the VA services and into the private health care world. They have closed clinics, reduced staff, and closed nursing homes. This trend is continuing in the current budget and the forecasts for the next 5 years.

Face the government does a lousy job of health care


4 posted on 09/03/2009 1:07:36 PM PDT by the long march
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“Fifty-six to 60 percent of people in government-run Medicare rate it a 9 or 10 on a 10-point scale. In contrast, only 40 percent of those enrolled in private insurance rank their plans that high. “

Medicare costs the federal govt. 650 billion a year and is due to go bankrupt in 7 years. Private insurance is not going bankrupt, costs the taxpayer nothing and pays taxes on any profit.


6 posted on 09/03/2009 1:11:12 PM PDT by staytrue
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Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care daily digest PING LIST

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7 posted on 09/03/2009 7:21:38 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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And they have managed to go bankrupt while only paying 60-70% of their bills - who pays the difference? You do, in the form of higher hospital/doctor bills.


8 posted on 09/04/2009 6:45:31 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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HORSESH*T!!!! Check the Medicare Fraud Counter!!!

http://www.usdebtclock.org/


9 posted on 09/04/2009 6:54:41 AM PDT by PushinTin (NEVER, argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!)
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