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May Be "Impossible" To Tell Runner's Sex (South African Champ's Backers Call Probe Racist, Sexist)
CBS News ^ | Aug. 22, 2009

Posted on 08/24/2009 10:12:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 08/24/2009 10:12:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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B.S.

I am sorry. If she is who she says she is. and she has a vagina. she is a she. let it be.


2 posted on 08/24/2009 10:17:02 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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I am sorry. If she is who she says she is. and she has a vagina. she is a she. let it be.

Just so long as it is original equipment and not aftermarket.

3 posted on 08/24/2009 10:20:45 PM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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I agree. It doesn’t seem overly complicated to me. Maybe the experts would be satisfied if she produced her original long form birth certificate?


4 posted on 08/24/2009 10:23:16 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Caster Semenya = CASTRATED SEMENYA


5 posted on 08/24/2009 10:26:58 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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Most likely these guys are just scared to be politically incorrect. If you run your tests and they say that it is not a woman, then all of the transgender abominations of the world raise an uproar and everyone in the IAAF gets sent to reeducation - er - I mean sensitivity training.

Let's make the test simple: if this person has a uterus, we'll count her as a woman. If not, buh-bye. The vagina thing is not sufficient these days.
6 posted on 08/24/2009 10:30:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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Balls! Cried the Queen, if I had two I’d be King! And the King laughed, not because he had to, but that he had two!


7 posted on 08/24/2009 10:31:16 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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There are indeed some poor souls out there born with indeterminate physical sexual identity. (I’m not referring to the kind of odd-ball excuse making the homosexual community does, but a real physical issue.)

Good luck straightening this out. And if this competitor indeed has a physical sexual identity issue, from birth, and now has to face this kind of publicity, I’ll say a prayer for her sanity and dignity.


8 posted on 08/24/2009 10:39:54 PM PDT by Yossarian
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Isn’t there an X and Y chromosome thingy to check? Pretty easy....


9 posted on 08/24/2009 10:43:06 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (UPS and FEDEX are doing fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. - 0bummer)
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“It would not be like that if it were some young girl from Europe,”

That is absolutely true. You would be able to tell just by looking.

11 posted on 08/24/2009 10:49:12 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ('Evil white devil since 1960')
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“Isn’t there an X and Y chromosome thingy to check? Pretty easy....”

XX=female, XY=male. But she could be XXY, a female with a male Y chromosome. This would disqualify her.
Some males are XYY and they are super agrressive.


12 posted on 08/24/2009 10:52:59 PM PDT by 1955Ford
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"Just because she is black and she surpassed her European competitors, there is all this uproar," Khompela was quoted as saying.

And...

"It would not be like that if it were some young girl from Europe," Chuene told the AP by telephone. "If it was a white child, she would be sitting somewhere with a psychologist, but this is an African child."

According to the ANC, if you are black, you are exempt from qualifying rules and any scrutiny whosoever. The biggest, most disgusting racists are often the ones screaming "Racist!" the loudest.

There are women who have XY chromosomes, which would normally be for a male

This is circular reasoning of sorts - they assert it's difficult to definitively determine an individual's actual gender, but then claim women can be XY, which implies that the gender can be known absolutely.

Sociologists and psychologists can play all the games they want, but I would assert that XX is female, and XY is male - if genetic expression of gender related characteristics is defective, this doesn't change the fundamental sex of the individual. In cases of XXY and XYY, the individual should be counted as male for the purposes of the competition.

13 posted on 08/24/2009 10:54:41 PM PDT by NMR Guy
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yes. but they would know by now if she had a sex change. thats extreme and radical.

Even if she was born with both features in some other way. In my opinion, if she has a real vagina, shes a woman.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 10:55:12 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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The problem is that in most of the pictures she is not wearing any make-up, so naturally she looks a little mannish.
15 posted on 08/24/2009 11:05:57 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

This would be simplified so much if she would just simply flash the crowd.


16 posted on 08/24/2009 11:15:03 PM PDT by The Future 2012 (Would the good people like a reply?)
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This racism cry is stupid - if “she” WERE a white European girl who looked and spoke like a man (and I have heard “her” voice), “it” would be undergoing the same scrutiny, presumably having denied real girls of a victory.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 11:21:36 PM PDT by GnuHere
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I was just watching Crocodile Dundee...he coulda sorted this out right quick, mate.


18 posted on 08/24/2009 11:25:06 PM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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Sorry guys it is a work in progress.
19 posted on 08/24/2009 11:32:07 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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LOL!


20 posted on 08/24/2009 11:33:43 PM PDT by elizabethgrace ("It is better to approximately right than precisely wrong." – Fortune Magazine, 1994)
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