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5 Reasons Macs Can't Claim They're Better than Windows 7 — plus rebuttal...
Network World and Pixobebo | 8/19/2009 and 8/21/2009 | By Mitchell Ashley - Pro, Kate MacKenzie - Con

Posted on 08/24/2009 12:50:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
"Can't we just get along?"
41 posted on 08/24/2009 10:17:06 AM PDT by McGruff (I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress - Obama)
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To: Swordmaker

OK Thanks


42 posted on 08/24/2009 11:17:11 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

whereas every Windows laptop I’ve ever used has seemed to get its knickers in a twist after maybe four or six sleeps or hibernations.........

My Compaq laptop does great. It will sleep and wake up with no problems and at least fifteen times. I just shut it off today after was on ten days straight

My home built computer is also sleeping and waking just fine (beyond what you have seen) with Windows7. With Vista it hung sometimes


43 posted on 08/24/2009 11:21:50 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: Swordmaker
Jesus,Mary and Joseph! "Swordmaker",you should be charged big $$$ for the right to post this stuff here.Do you work for Apple? Are you a stockholder? Or are you a disgruntled former Microsoft employee??????

(and no,I don't work for Microsoft nor am I a stockholder and I've never worked for Apple)

44 posted on 08/24/2009 11:27:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Gay State Conservative
! "Swordmaker",you should be charged big $$$ for the right to post this stuff here.Do you work for Apple? Are you a stockholder? Or are you a disgruntled former Microsoft employee??????

Why? This is a PRO Windows 7 article with a PRO Mac rebuttal from two different sources.

I maintain the FreeRepublic Mac Ping List of over 375 fellow freepers who are interested. If you are not, move on to something you are interested in.

45 posted on 08/24/2009 12:02:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

When Windows people routinely run their Windows systems without any anti-virus software or third-party security software, I’ll believe Windows is as secure as the Mac.


46 posted on 08/24/2009 12:31:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Swordmaker

Swordmaker, you’re always welcome to post here. And FReepers like to hear both sides of an issue.


47 posted on 08/24/2009 12:34:27 PM PDT by normanpubbie
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To: Question_Assumptions

“When Windows people routinely run their Windows systems without any anti-virus software or third-party security software, I’ll believe Windows is as secure as the Mac.”

For the last 6 years I ran my windows machines wide open, with no anti-virus software running. I could do this because I know to pay attention to what I am clicking on and what web sites I look at. I also only clicked on attachments in emails if I was certain it came from a safe source. Never did get a virus. It can be done.

Of course, since giving the pc to my wife and going full time with the Macbook I haven’t worried about catching a virus or installing malware a single time :)


48 posted on 08/24/2009 1:11:20 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: TheStickman

Likewise. often 12-14 hours a day on the Web, and in about 7 years using W/95 got one virus, and none on XP/Vista in 4 years. I do not go looking for porn sites or gambling, and rarely open an attachment from even a friend, and above all pray for safety. Surfing is liking driving. I do use the mvps host file though, www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm and Firefox, get no pop ups. Thanks be to God.


49 posted on 08/24/2009 1:44:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: normanpubbie

Thanks, but i was really asking how W/7 fares in the things i mentioned. Good to know it is faster.


50 posted on 08/24/2009 1:47:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: TheStickman

i often g many day w/out a reboot, as i have leave about 100 tabs open on FF, and different programs for projects i am working on. And very rarely does XP crash or lock up. I do have to restart FF in order to get back memory, as 3GB is not enough, and 32 bit cannot utilize more than that. I wonder how Mac fares with that. But when i do reboot, which is usually due to MS updates, then FF saves/restore all the tabs, and Open Office has an add on that can restore all the documents i was working on. Boot up and press 3 keys and my 5 main programs (Quick Verse, E-Sword, Open Office Thunderbird, Firefox) load simultaneously.

I also wonder how MAC fares as regards 3rd party apps. In addion to those mentioned previously, i also like TClockEx (the one by Dale Nurden) which shows seconds, and free ram, and other options, the AutoHotKey app, KB piano (1.2 last free version) which turns your keyboard into various instruments, Win Patrol which alerts about changes made surreptitiously by programs - and MS, and other helpful programs. Thnak God for those who write such good stuff.


51 posted on 08/24/2009 2:07:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: - Prv. 28:2)
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To: daniel1212

I’ll answer what I have 1st hand knowledge of. I don’t use many 3rd party apps, myself. I use Logic Express 8 for my multi-tracking/mixing/mastering needs. Sometimes I do some scratch work in Garageband. I “think” you can use your keyboard in Garageband as a midi controller. I’ve never had a reason to use that feature as I have a controller. I had no problems running any of the music software with just 1 gig of ram. I recently upgraded to 2 gigs and all is well.

There is Open Office for the Mac which works nicely. I do use Thunderbird and FF and have no problems at all.


52 posted on 08/24/2009 2:47:47 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: AFreeBird
Are you telling us that you run your PC with no firewall, no ant-virus/malware software; directly connected to the net, and not behind a router/gateway?

I have a router.

53 posted on 08/24/2009 3:15:58 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: Big Giant Head

Then you ain’t “exposed” to the net. Try putting just your machine on the net w/out the router, and no firewall or anything else I mentioned.


54 posted on 08/24/2009 3:29:51 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Swordmaker
Many still live with the myth that Mac OS X doesn't have any security issues while Windows does. That myth ignores the facts. For example, Apple just released 18 security patches (the smallest collection of patches this year) for Mac OS X on August 5th.
That's interesting -- 18 security patches equated to how many Wintel-only viruses and other malware? The author is clearly either a shill or a complete idiot.
55 posted on 08/24/2009 3:44:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: dennisw

I’ve been using both for a while. The Mac interface still blows it away. While Vista was lipstick on an XP pig, Windows 7 just removed much of the more gaudy lipstick. It’s still the old kludge Windows interface. I can still show you dialogs from the NT days that just have a repaint.

Leopard runs well with 1 GB, runs sweet with 2 GB. Snow Leopard is supposed to clean that up quite a bit and run even faster.


56 posted on 08/24/2009 4:02:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: AFreeBird

Why? I’m not TRYING to get infected, I’m just anti-antivirus. Norton and Mcafee are two of the worst viruses I’ve ever had to kill. They take over a machine and kill the performance. I tell folks to buy a router instead of AV.

I set up my brand new Vista using all defaults, playing the “dumb consumer” role, just to see how long it would last with nothing but my router. Still going. I’m now on W7, same situation.


57 posted on 08/24/2009 4:30:06 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: Big Giant Head

FWIW, before I switched to Mac, I ran Windows without anti-virus, and never had a problem. Most of the viruses require you to do something. I never open the emails that say, “You received a greeting card from...” or if I went to a web site and a popup window offering me a choice of installing something came up I force quit the browser.

I prefer Macs, but never had a malware problem on Windows. The only virus I ever got was the Ethan Fromme Word macro virus. It infected about 2/3rds of the Word documents on my campus.


58 posted on 08/24/2009 4:35:35 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Big Giant Head
I agree about McAfee and Norton especially. McAfee was fine back in the day, when it was a DOS based program. But ever since they went the "windows" route, and "required" IE and ActiveX (ActiveX - now there's a virus), I've not touched them. A silly statement since I now run Linux and McAfee doesn't do Tux. And I can't count the number of times I had to cleanse an engineer's workstation because he had some fancy Norton whatever running on it eating up the CPU.

But since you are running behind a router, and not depending on Windows directly for your protection, your initial statement of running bare nekkid is at least, inaccurate.

As for myself, I run Linux, and yea, I do run behind a router. The router, a Linksys 4400N, runs Linux too.

I've been meaning to take my Laptop out to a public WiFi spot and get on the net, and use Wireshark to watch all the hits my ports are going to take. I just need to find one that serves beer and allows smoking.

59 posted on 08/24/2009 4:56:17 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: dennisw
Plenty of PC users would install the Apple OS for a dual boot and buy a legal copy thus increasing Apple's profits

And you would have the same crappy experience you have now, the Mac OS is designed to run on Apple hardware. Windows has to accommodate thousands of versions of the PC.

60 posted on 08/24/2009 5:46:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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