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To: thecraw

Its pretty simple really:
1. They did have footprints in 1961.
2. It was a protectoriate in 61, then independent in 63, but all policies and procedures were in place and being used in 1961, evidence has been provided already on Taits site, Andy Martins, Allan Keyes, etc.
3. Obama is hiding something, which is why everything is sealed.
4. This has not been examined by experts, so any comment is only speculation at this time.
5. Long form Birth certificates and COLB are very different, for different purposes.
6. The video of the certificate shows its a COPY, not the origonal, probably black and white. Note the Document stamp which he specifies and denotes that it has info with the e-mail address, administrators name, etc.
7. We now have a doctors name.
8. We now have an administrators name.

I find it specious for anyone to give all this easily verifiable information, remember he has not made money on this yet.
He admits he is no angle, admits he has made payoffs, and states that it takes “someone like him” to get this information. And he did.

Give the guy his 10 minutes, lets examine the document, verify it, and if its fake, find out NOW. If its not, lets take care of business, just as it should have been done in the first place.

I am leaving out my opinion, as it has as much value at this point as everything else I have read.

Start checking out what he has given us so far...
* This is a typed document
Copy is issued on Feb 1, 09 by
Hilton Magonga
Chief Administrator (so should be there today)
Issued by:
Coast Province General Hospital
Mombasa British Protectoriate of Kenya
Certificate Number 32018
DOB August 4, 1961 Time: 7:42PM
Weight: 7Lbs, 1 Oz 18” Long
Mother: Stanley Ann Obama
Maiden Name: Dunham
Birthplace of Mother:
Wichita, KS, United States
Residence of Mother:
Honalulu, Hawaii, United States
Occupation of Mother: Student
Father:
Barak Hussein Obama
DOB: 1936
Birthplace of Father:
Kantadhiang Village, Kyanza
Occupation of Father: Student
Attending Physician:
James O. W. Ang*Awa
Hospital Administrator:
John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961


75 posted on 08/23/2009 11:10:20 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
I find it specious for anyone to give all this easily verifiable information, remember he has not made money on this yet. He admits he is no angle, admits he has made payoffs, and states that it takes “someone like him” to get this information. And he did. Give the guy his 10 minutes, lets examine the document, verify it, and if its fake, find out NOW. If its not, lets take care of business, just as it should have been done in the first place

Amen! Great summary of this thing (thanks for that.)

Lucas Smith, it's time to take this to the next level. If what you've got is for real, you'll be rich and famous (so long as you stay away from Ft. Marcy Park ;-) of course). If not, well let's just say we don't need to be chasing our tails. Let's leave that for mentally challenged canines...
76 posted on 08/23/2009 11:53:33 AM PDT by thecraw (Christian by choice, American by the grace of God.)
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To: etraveler13

I have confirmed that its Helton Magonga, and he is INDEED the Chief Administrator, note the date: June 18,2009
Link:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200906180705.html
“We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.”

Here is a paper published by the Attending Physician:
http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7
From the Oxford Journal


This is a United Nations entry for the daughter of the doctor who is supposed to have delivered Barack Hussein Obama

in Mombasa, Kenya.

Mary Atieno Ang’awa (Kenya). Place and date of birth: Mombasa, Kenya, 8 March 1954. Nationality: Kenyan.

She is now a prominent High Court Justice in Nairobi.

However, this confirms that in fact her father probably did practice in Mombasa, if she also was born there in the

1950’s. He apparently accompanied the 1978 Kenyan Team to the Olympics in Moscow (President Carter ;ead the U.S.

boycott of these games).

She could easily dispel anything about this “You Tube” document.


So far, everything checks out...


77 posted on 08/23/2009 11:54:56 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13; MHGinTN; BP2; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; Las Vegas Ron

Barak Hussein Obama
DOB: 1936
_______________
Is the name of Sr. spelled Barak, with no C, on the document?


79 posted on 08/23/2009 1:00:38 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: etraveler13

I cannot comment on the veracity of the BC.... I really have no idea, but I have followed this story closely and no longer trust Lucas Smith. What I do not understand is this stupid video. It tells nothing except that Smith had a clipboard ,walked in a grungy area, had a small crowd of kids and a few adults in the background listening while he took a sideways video.
Because it says nothing I think it is only meant to fool the gullible.

Smith has had months to put up this video.He should have the document in his possession. Why not just take a clean shot of it?

The only possibilities I can think of is he bought the document or got it from a source he knows is disreputable. He wants people to think he went to Kenya and got it ...thus the video of a squalid scene.


93 posted on 08/23/2009 2:55:17 PM PDT by woofie
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To: etraveler13

Why are the dates in the American standard of month/day/year instead of the English/Kenya standard of day/month/year?


97 posted on 08/23/2009 3:28:13 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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